Message from @Pingu

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2018-11-16 23:58:47 UTC  

You really think I'm 15 lol

2018-11-17 00:07:25 UTC  

would there be a day when people actually stick to the qotd in this chat?

2018-11-17 00:08:49 UTC  

Yes when they ban the liberals

2018-11-17 00:08:56 UTC  

And trolls

2018-11-17 00:09:47 UTC  

troll confirmed

2018-11-17 00:11:35 UTC  

@WAR so you dismiss what we say and call us liberals

2018-11-17 00:12:30 UTC  

let's go back to the question,shall we?
so if we pass a law enforcing the first ammendment on social media it might not be so important to snowball into a more authoritarian US government

2018-11-17 00:13:30 UTC  

I mean,remember the PATRIOT act?

2018-11-17 00:28:12 UTC  

That assumes authoritarianism is bad

2018-11-17 01:12:44 UTC  

authoritarianism isn't inherently good or bad, it depends on what it sets out to accomplish and what its results are

2018-11-17 01:20:46 UTC  

well

2018-11-17 01:21:05 UTC  

I like to use the PRC as an example of when a politician gets way too much power

2018-11-17 01:21:27 UTC  

the communist party basically owns all the other parties and the politicians in it

2018-11-17 01:21:47 UTC  

Xi Jinping basically makes himself stay in office until he retires

2018-11-17 01:25:06 UTC  

and nothing can overthrow him

2018-11-17 01:25:34 UTC  

β€œNothing”

2018-11-17 01:25:38 UTC  

Hmm

2018-11-17 01:26:01 UTC  

<:Chad:476653434637123584>

2018-11-17 01:27:01 UTC  

name one politician that can oppose to Xi Jinping (internally to the PRC)

2018-11-17 01:30:15 UTC  

Chiang Kai-shek

2018-11-17 01:30:42 UTC  

in modern terms sperg

2018-11-17 01:34:17 UTC  

hi

2018-11-17 01:34:49 UTC  

so what debate do we have going on here

2018-11-17 01:37:15 UTC  

whether we should regulate social media to ensure free speech or not

2018-11-17 01:37:44 UTC  

A internet bill of rights essentially?

2018-11-17 01:37:58 UTC  

and now seems like whether authoritarianism is bad or not
pretty much,yeah

2018-11-17 01:38:14 UTC  

Yeah we really should

2018-11-17 01:38:21 UTC  

have a internet bill of rights

2018-11-17 01:38:51 UTC  

and as big oof it does depend on what authoritarianism is

2018-11-17 01:39:07 UTC  

The term isn't inherently good or bad

2018-11-17 01:40:16 UTC  

I'd just limit it to enforce the first ammendment on social media
I don't think it'd give more power to the government to get into private companies' business than the PATRIOT act already does

2018-11-17 01:41:32 UTC  

I agree with you

2018-11-17 01:41:44 UTC  

free speech is important no matter how radical the ideas are

2018-11-17 01:42:09 UTC  

in fact hate speech will only worsen the situation by outlawing thoughts

2018-11-17 01:42:32 UTC  

as this means they don't need to be contested with and they only attract sympathizers who will actually listen to them and get radicalized themselves without opposition

2018-11-17 01:45:33 UTC  

πŸ‘

2018-11-17 01:46:49 UTC  

so that's my thoughts on it

2018-11-17 01:46:54 UTC  

from a Communist lol

I mean, I feel like the communistic way to approach it would be to simply nationalize social networking sites and place them directly under the oversight of government