Message from @derekthederek
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The GOP of 2018 is different from the GOP we were trying to kill
here's a thought as well, though
i don't see a lot of liberals clamoring to debate Nrx or dissident righties, but i also don't see a lot of them tripping over themselves to debate either
i see truedilmeme debating eso or whatever, but that's still just two fringies no one cares about
however, Vox Day did debate Bob Murphy on tom woods show a while back
is that Destiny faggot still doing debates?
@derekthederek Yes. We need someone in the dissident right to destroy him
We need to cite sources from books well over his head
What a joke he is
that's the thing with destiny man
theory is over his head, he refuses to debate on those grounds
it has to be cited and sourced empirical shit
Yes. He only debates based on data relevant to our current society, not on philosophy. If the dissident right agreed to debate on hypotheticals he would refuse
which is all fine, but he's a consequentialist liberal. he's of the peter singer school of argumentation and reasoning for most of his shit.
you'd have to give him a resolution that he couldn't pass up
The fact that we haven't taken power and implemented policy that had verifiable results that could studied is enough for him to dismiss you
He is so fucking obsessed with data and if someone could say that on stream, he would go apeshit.
have you seen the Dick Masterson debate?
VC
Music
the entire debate is basically Dick trying to prove to Destiny that he sucks and his debate style is garbage
a thing to behold
@derekthederek Jesus. 5 minutes in and Destiny is acting like a passive aggressive idiot
He's being ripped but he can't say it
WE DEBATE MY WAY.
NOT YOUR WAY
lol you're watching it? awesome.
IF YOU'RE THEORY ISN'T BEING TESTED, ITS FUCKING TRASH!
That's his argument. This is the problem with science too. You can't test if x system of government is better by changing systems, therefore "its stoopid"
dick is friends with mr. metoker i think, he just wanted to get in the debate to tell Destiny he sucks. i don't think he even knew the topic he agreed to lol
yeah but like... he lives in America doesn't he?
joe rogan has a bit about this, but people didn't fucking sketch out their preferred theory of government, women and men just scooped up their babies and jumped on a rickety boat and got the fuck out of Britain
I could argue that Neoliberalism/conservatism has been the dominant system since the 80s and that his progressive system can't be tested in the US right now, therefore by his logic, his system fucking sucks
looking at Destiny makes me want to go lift
yeah that's a resolution he'd probably agree to
"Western conservatism has been the cause of more human flourishing in the US than progressivism has"
Oh shit. I have an idea. I can debate him, get someone to record it and then upload it as a video for the Right Cafe. (We have a channel now, it just doesn't have content)
probably a long list to get behind, but if he knows that you're part of a (somewhat) community on Discord he might be down
Never trust frogs
@derekthederek How is this for an email?
"Hey Destiny! I have watching some of your debates and I was pretty irritated that only two major groups ever partake in debating you: Skeptics and Conservatives(Liberals) and the alt right(Mixture of philosophical ideals but for the most part, revolutionary + modernist). I come from another, more fringe, more alien perspective and I am curious if you would be willing to discuss it: reactionary politics. If you thought the alt right was in the minds of a progressive "a bunch of fringe racists" than prepare to witness something that is eons ahead of it. (Or, from a point of view, eons behind it).
My personal beliefs which I am interesting in debating on:
Dogma > Science
Imperialism can be good
The Democratic system of Government is inherently flawed and is incompatible with the truth
The vast majority of the Alt Right is not right wing.
If you are interested, please contact me soon, as the next couple days I have off and Thanksgiving is coming soon.
Thank You!
Sincerely,
2100AD#1492 (this is my discord UserID. I can contact you best through it)
P.S.
I am the head of a fairly large discord of about 800 people, called the Right Cafe. We do occasional debates and discussions ranging from the outcome of the 2018 midterms to was the Enlightenment a bad thing? If you are interested, I could advertise the debate on the discord."