Message from @SilverLining
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It kind of doesn't....
It just points out that IQ isn't the end all be all
which is true
Not that it's useless
eh, that IQ isn't the be all end all is what I'm really trying to get at
You said it was terrible and unreliable, but it's getting into semantics at this point
The point is, the study did not conclude IQ wasn't invalid, just that it was far from perfect
oh
that IQ is terrible and unreliable is another point
that there's a minimal, arguably negligible correlation between IQ and success is separated from that
it wasn't negligible as far as this study is concerned, but I've barely look into it so I will not use this as personal proof
it is a fairly old study, so *maybe* it's wrong
you're not... digging into the study, then
one that has been overseen by different people
the point isn't that some people who were termites achieved great things
but rather, that many of those overlooked reached greater heights
On average, they were better off than their peers
and that many of those with termites were...
That does not at all contradict what I just said
well, near average
On average, they were above average.
Outliers don't really disprove that
it mentioned like...
let me find it
@SilverLining The NYT did mention that C students who were "Termites" did see less success than those who made "As"
"He found that gifted children did not fit the existing stereotypes often associated with them: they were not weak and sickly social misfits, but in fact were generally taller, in better health, better developed physically, and better adapted socially than other children."
physically, yes
they probably were better off
Which actually kinda forwards the well-proven notion that IQ is correlated to nutrition and education
Alright
You're not staying within the boundaries of what is currently being argued
Whether or not IQ is correlated with nutrition is irrelevant right now
I know, but you mentioned they were "better off"
Also
that's one of the ways
From the same wikipedia article you just quoted
literally
the primary way mentioned
the next line
"Additionally, those in the gifted group were generally successful in their careers: Many received awards recognizing their achievements. Though many of the children reached exceptional heights in adulthood, not all did. Terman explored the causes of obvious talent not being realized, exploring personal obstacles, education, and lack of opportunity as causes."
that was psychology today