Message from @Draco

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2018-11-04 00:24:08 UTC  

balkanization is too

2018-11-04 00:24:08 UTC  

White people already have national self determination in the USA

2018-11-04 00:24:19 UTC  

I believe so

2018-11-04 00:24:26 UTC  

segregation happens naturally

2018-11-04 00:24:28 UTC  

Amerimutt meme is fake, a true American is someone of over 80% European decent

2018-11-04 00:24:30 UTC  

If I remember how these worked in the USSR and PRC

2018-11-04 00:24:40 UTC  

Schelling's model of segregation was epic

2018-11-04 00:24:41 UTC  

White people have to follow same rules as blacks in West

2018-11-04 00:24:46 UTC  

to immigrate

2018-11-04 00:24:49 UTC  

incentivize ethnic groups to move away from each other

2018-11-04 00:26:07 UTC  

Well this is about solving the contradictions of imperialism and racial oppression

2018-11-04 00:27:01 UTC  

I am not sure why you believe Whites have an autonomous region in West.

2018-11-04 00:27:23 UTC  

It's baffling to me you think otherwise

2018-11-04 00:27:51 UTC  

But then again white racial identity politics are primarily based in false victimization, so I shouldn't be so surprised

2018-11-04 00:30:58 UTC  

whites are exploited by a fifth column movement of intersectionalism which is just subjectively exploited and projected at every turn

2018-11-04 00:31:21 UTC  

That's a really silly claim

2018-11-04 00:31:25 UTC  

You gave the criteria that the such region is one where any person of said race has a right to go.
No one has a right to emigrate to other country in West, just on basis of race.
Your own definition contradicts you.

And if it is true that White identity is based on false victimization and they are not victims, then cool. Whites have an interest in continuing that way. Case closed

2018-11-04 00:32:43 UTC  

Well white majority nations have as part of them primarily white power and white power over non-whites. The solution to the contradiction here is that non-whites get autonomous regions. This is specifically decolonization

2018-11-04 00:32:59 UTC  

Imperialized countries have the right to self determine as well

2018-11-04 00:33:15 UTC  

For example o support Assad against US imperialism so that Syria can self determine

2018-11-04 00:33:29 UTC  

If Whites have such power over others, why they should lose it? Why they should give it away?

2018-11-04 00:34:03 UTC  

Assad is a chad

2018-11-04 00:37:39 UTC  

Well ultimately I don't think it's all white people working class folk, both white and black, are both negatively affected by Capitalism and would mutually benefit by working together for their interests. This is where is different from liberals on this as they think all white people benefit from institutionalozed racism, and I think this is false. Another example is that when Mexicans are chosen for cheap labour both white and Mexican people are negatively affected. White people lose their jobs or have to accept lower pay, and Mexicans are further exploited with less and less pay and worse conditions. In the case of it being under the table it's even worse the shady shit cappies do. This example could apply to all

2018-11-04 00:38:12 UTC  

So really it's the bourgeoisie who benefit from racism

2018-11-04 00:39:35 UTC  

Your analysis critiques the bourgeosie but fails to explain why they should make way for Proletariat. The only way is if the Proletariat goes against the bourgeosie. But then they would be the new bourgeosie.
So, where does this cycle end?

2018-11-04 00:40:11 UTC  

This kind of gets into historical Materialism

2018-11-04 00:40:37 UTC  

We have not seen a revolutionary class establish a state like the former, it always takes a form which benefits their class

2018-11-04 00:40:59 UTC  

The bourgeoisie formed from the merchant class and when it overthrew the Feudal Lords did not themselves become Feudal Lords

2018-11-04 00:41:17 UTC  

And I think we could both agree Capitalism is better than Feudalism

2018-11-04 00:41:51 UTC  

If the proletariat seize power they will form a state and political economy that is a reflection of their class and class interests

2018-11-04 00:42:22 UTC  

Nothing but socialism can arise from this

2018-11-04 00:43:08 UTC  

Btw I have to drive so brb

2018-11-04 00:43:25 UTC  

But there will always be a class that has power, right?
Ok

2018-11-04 01:01:55 UTC  

Well the majority of human existence has been in tribal societies where there were no class distinctions

2018-11-04 01:06:31 UTC  

there were de facto autocrats

2018-11-04 01:06:33 UTC  

chieftains

2018-11-04 01:06:34 UTC  

elders

2018-11-04 01:06:41 UTC  

theocrats

2018-11-04 01:06:42 UTC  

Those are not classes

2018-11-04 01:06:48 UTC  

Leaders will always exist

2018-11-04 01:06:48 UTC  

not economic classes no