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@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ Define socialism
this is a necessary first step
Socialism is often conflated with heavy market regulation
Where the means of production are collectively owned by the state or workers
That's accurate
But it's not as black and white as that
extremely heavy economic intervention by the state
Market intervention is not socialism
Not market intervention
heavy market intervention
Take Venezeula for example
Fascism doesn't seek to abolish private property
The state owns the property
in fascism
In Mussolini's case, it was a mixture of state capitalism with state socialism
No
Mussolini wasn't a man of his word
Not really
it depends
and state socialism is just socialism
state capitalism does not exist
Hitler for instance was pro-private property, but he winded up betraying national socialism in the end
Yes it does
It's just semantics
No it doesn't
define state capitalism
Hitler was pro private property in the sense that he could seize it if it went against the state, it was heavily regulated
A business can be owned by the state and driven by profit, being ran like any other business
lmao no it fucking wasn't
define state capitalism
first of all
Wait wait
lets define that
>the market was heavily regulated
wrong
define
state capitalism
You can't introduce a series of points and then try to force someone to address a specific point.
Ok ignore them for now