Message from @Enigmatic★Chromatic

Discord ID: 523931818903339023


2018-12-16 18:34:13 UTC  

I think they can have churches/mosques

2018-12-16 18:34:18 UTC  

but further away from public eye

2018-12-16 18:34:19 UTC  

Like having a rosary or praying is fine

2018-12-16 18:34:29 UTC  

and it would be a good way to raise public funds

2018-12-16 18:34:32 UTC  

Yeah places of worship will still exist

2018-12-16 18:35:33 UTC  

but I suppose we can put a ban on public preaching

2018-12-16 18:35:45 UTC  

regarding it as a public disturbance

2018-12-16 18:35:47 UTC  

Absolutely

2018-12-16 18:36:03 UTC  

The point is to teach kids a scientific understanding of the world

2018-12-16 18:36:45 UTC  

well yeah

2018-12-16 18:36:47 UTC  

And losen the grasp of religion

2018-12-16 18:37:01 UTC  

perhaps we should instill a sort of nationalistic fervor

2018-12-16 18:37:04 UTC  

Promote genuine secularism

2018-12-16 18:37:14 UTC  

Ehh

2018-12-16 18:37:16 UTC  

to ensure people don't develop a depression culture

2018-12-16 18:37:19 UTC  

and feel a sense of purpose

2018-12-16 18:37:30 UTC  

to better not themselves or those in their immediate vicinity

2018-12-16 18:37:33 UTC  

Socialist Patriotism>National Chauvanism

2018-12-16 18:37:33 UTC  

but for the state

2018-12-16 18:37:55 UTC  

eh

2018-12-16 18:37:59 UTC  

The state will wither away if you have socialism

2018-12-16 18:38:11 UTC  

Of it's own accord

2018-12-16 18:39:10 UTC  

I mean government will still exist

2018-12-16 18:39:25 UTC  

I don't think post scarcity will be able to be acquired

2018-12-16 18:39:38 UTC  

we can only make conditions better and better for people

2018-12-16 18:39:41 UTC  

but they still must work

2018-12-16 18:39:53 UTC  

and even if everything can be provided we still must get people to work

2018-12-16 18:40:06 UTC  

Yeah government will still exist

2018-12-16 18:40:25 UTC  

And I agree

2018-12-16 18:40:51 UTC  

Chasing "full automation" "luxury communism" or predicating communism on abundance is bad Marxism

2018-12-16 18:40:58 UTC  

And Utopian

2018-12-16 18:41:12 UTC  

Post-scarcity is a meme

2018-12-16 18:41:18 UTC  

indeed

2018-12-16 18:41:29 UTC  

I've seen some fairly intelligent communists believe in it too

2018-12-16 18:41:33 UTC  

which is disappointing

2018-12-16 18:41:46 UTC  

imo I think the best and furthest we should have work conditions go

2018-12-16 18:41:48 UTC  

is a 4 hour work day

2018-12-16 18:41:51 UTC  

Communism will likely shorten work days, but that's about it

2018-12-16 18:42:02 UTC  

100% employment will likely always be the norm

2018-12-16 18:42:06 UTC  

I think any lower than 4 hours and you have a truly decadent society

2018-12-16 18:42:24 UTC  

while 4 hours is extremely low itself