Message from @Silkiri

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2018-12-16 18:37:55 UTC  

eh

2018-12-16 18:37:59 UTC  

The state will wither away if you have socialism

2018-12-16 18:38:11 UTC  

Of it's own accord

2018-12-16 18:39:10 UTC  

I mean government will still exist

2018-12-16 18:39:25 UTC  

I don't think post scarcity will be able to be acquired

2018-12-16 18:39:38 UTC  

we can only make conditions better and better for people

2018-12-16 18:39:41 UTC  

but they still must work

2018-12-16 18:39:53 UTC  

and even if everything can be provided we still must get people to work

2018-12-16 18:40:06 UTC  

Yeah government will still exist

2018-12-16 18:40:25 UTC  

And I agree

2018-12-16 18:40:51 UTC  

Chasing "full automation" "luxury communism" or predicating communism on abundance is bad Marxism

2018-12-16 18:40:58 UTC  

And Utopian

2018-12-16 18:41:12 UTC  

Post-scarcity is a meme

2018-12-16 18:41:18 UTC  

indeed

2018-12-16 18:41:29 UTC  

I've seen some fairly intelligent communists believe in it too

2018-12-16 18:41:33 UTC  

which is disappointing

2018-12-16 18:41:46 UTC  

imo I think the best and furthest we should have work conditions go

2018-12-16 18:41:48 UTC  

is a 4 hour work day

2018-12-16 18:41:51 UTC  

Communism will likely shorten work days, but that's about it

2018-12-16 18:42:02 UTC  

100% employment will likely always be the norm

2018-12-16 18:42:06 UTC  

I think any lower than 4 hours and you have a truly decadent society

2018-12-16 18:42:24 UTC  

while 4 hours is extremely low itself

2018-12-16 18:42:31 UTC  

Probably cap around 25 hrs a week

2018-12-16 18:42:38 UTC  

Er

2018-12-16 18:42:51 UTC  

Go down to, but no lower than 25hr/week

2018-12-16 18:43:13 UTC  

and a rather conservative culture should be encouraged

2018-12-16 18:43:21 UTC  

Ehh

2018-12-16 18:43:24 UTC  

by that I mean

2018-12-16 18:43:28 UTC  

spending time with families

2018-12-16 18:43:31 UTC  

and etc

2018-12-16 18:43:36 UTC  

Culture is part of the Superstructure

2018-12-16 18:43:38 UTC  

not dehumanising gays or trannies

2018-12-16 18:43:48 UTC  

It'll change to whatever makes sense

2018-12-16 18:43:59 UTC  

yeah and I think people should care more about families

2018-12-16 18:44:14 UTC  

gay partners are okay

2018-12-16 18:44:27 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452955229227319306/523933444820959232/kisspng-base-and-superstructure-marxism-marxist-philosophy-marxist-philosophy-5b22e3bf4a43d8.8413036.jpg

2018-12-16 18:44:34 UTC  

I know what base and superstructure is

2018-12-16 18:44:42 UTC  

Communism would expand the family

2018-12-16 18:44:47 UTC  

how so

2018-12-16 18:44:52 UTC  

Community parenting

2018-12-16 18:45:15 UTC  

do you mean social stigma stuff like that?