wait, what if we gave them 12 gauges instead of lmgs?

every breaching team has a 12ga guy but rifles and smgs are much better for fighting

combat shotguns are a meme mostly

What about a lighter rifle, rather than an m42?

Hk43 for example

are you taking about an m4 or an mg42

mg42, fuck this phone

hk43 is an assault rifle, so yeah you'd arm most of your guys with something like that

but smgs are also good to have in an urban environment fighting unarmored opponents

Hk43 is peak a e s t h e t i c

German rifle made by Nazis who fled to Spain after ww2

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSBS_rifle

this is a cool new thing

it's a bullpup

can be

compact, but a bit gross

it's a 7.62 battle rifle that's compact like an m4

better than an m4 actually because it uses a folding stock like it was made by smart men

Why not just go with an AK? its probably cheaper and more common.

AKs are great for dismounted troops, but they are bulky getting in and out of vehicles

that's why modern weapons have gone the carbine route

dude just go with Yugo Ak pistol and an arm brace

ok gamer I'll engage at 200-300 meters with that

You said carbine is the appeal because of bulkiness right?

yes that's the reason they've been adopted

also weight to an extent

Well that "pistol" is just as compact

Unless carbines have the same barrel length as full sized rifles, this seems like a cheap alternative

I'm sure it does an alright job at most things, but I would not want to be in a modern firefight without a full length stock and an optic

cheap yes

that's why insurgents love them

my grandpa taught me about the importance of relying on iron sites because "an optic can get cracked, run out of batteries, or glint and give away your position. An ironight won't."

That is true, I've always liked shooting with iron sights better

but modern optics are very good

I don't deny that, but still.

the stock I understand because keeping your gun steady is upmost improtance.

comfortable cheek weld too

but optics are a bit unreliable. The more parts a thing has, the more things can go wrong with it.

Fuck, my dad bought an eotech knock off and the thing died after every shot because of the recoil shifting the battery

You are overstating their failure rate I think. Modern armies use optics for everything, many day optics do not need batteries, and night vision is too important to forgo