even if thats the case, how come we make choices that dont somehow benefit us one way or another and are completely arbitrary?

I don’t know the exact science

But they all have to come from somewhere

because it doesnt exist

there is no science behind free will

only us

It doesn’t need science if it doesn’t exist

which is why you dont know it

because it doesnt need it, so it doesnt have it

Everything has science behind it

It can not need it

false

Can’t*

still false

What doesn’t need science?

nothing

if we came from nothing

then

So everything needs science?

and if our choices always somehow lead to death

i.e. nothing

then, we have free will, because it comes from nothing

If free will doesn’t exist then how do people even function on a day to day basis?

*drops mic*

Because our brain works

There are no choices

Only input and output

i just told you

Yes there are, your brain makes choices consciously and subconsciously

one moment, are you a naturalist or a theist?

But there can only be one choice because of how our brain works

It could be predicted

no it cant

There are not random elements

How does the brain work to only have one outcome?

Scientific law

It has to follow the rules of the universe

There is no room for multiple choices

@Slendy are you a naturalist or a theist?

I just did all the work I can do in my shift with 7 hours to go

The rules of the universe are pretty expansive, there’s plenty room for interpretation