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and then they seized everything
The difference between a socialist and a communist is that a socialist views the socialist state (ex., the Soviet Union) as PERMANENT. A communist sees the socialist state as transitional to a stateless communist society.
i.e., a communist subscribes to that processional view of society Marx outlined.
It gets complicated because the USSR claimed to be faithful to communism. A Marxist-Leninist state is theoretically temporary but I don't think the leaders of the USSR ever had any plans of relinquishing power. This is the talking point for "not real communism".
Sorry lupis
Umm we are using vc for memes right now
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Are you under the impression that a socialist state 'leads' to communism? Because if so I'd like you to name one example. Every communist state that's ever existed self-destructed or abandoned communism as an ideology.
You do have a point
typically
revolution and anarchism
ex., Vietnam, China, and even Cuba recently.
leads to communism
Did he leave the server? I cant find him
North Korea no longer claims to be communist either.
They dont?
Not for a good decade.
Did they say they arent, or just not say they are
Juche is Marxist but I guess they realized they can no longer claim to be rulers and also subscribe to Marx, in other words seek the eventual destruction of their state.
Which China will have to face too eventually.
Commies would never allow that
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Good man ^
Well I'm not a communist so I don't think it's realistic either. It's not something we can debate about.
They cant even handle drumf and meltdown over everything he does
Communism is more of a temporary stage tbh
It can industrialize a nation majorly
but cant last for ever
But Marx was an advocate for guns actually. And in theory a Marxist revolt that worked perfectly would mean the proletariat does it on their own. The disconnect is when a state like the Soviet Union exists, claiming to be a "dictatorship of the proletariat" when in reality not representing their needs or interests at all.
Communism is simply political Judaism
*lel*
The problem with semantics is when people equate the socialist state that subscribes to a communist ideology as a **communist state**, like the Soviet Union.
What if this serevr ran into a "The left Cafe"
or
Which is made worse when people refer to it in the offhand as communist.
"The Communist Cafe"
What would we do
to combat them
All the inventors of Communism are racial Jews, most major communists in history are racially Jewish such as Stalin