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2018-06-28 04:46:28 UTC  

I hate Americans tbh they don't ever think for themselves

2018-06-28 04:46:52 UTC  

Hate might be too strong

2018-06-28 04:47:17 UTC  

Extremely dislike

2018-06-28 04:49:16 UTC  

Ok.

2018-06-28 09:46:27 UTC  

That’s exactly what the U.K. does lol

2018-06-28 09:46:55 UTC  

They can print all the money they need. Why do you think they tax people

2018-06-28 09:47:19 UTC  

It’s a shakeup if 1984 and brave new world

2018-06-28 10:06:17 UTC  

Are we implying that fiat money printing is used to keep people poor despite every metric for standard of living dramatically increasing in the past few decades even in the poorest shithole countries???

2018-06-28 10:06:23 UTC  

Lolbertarians strike again!

2018-06-28 10:09:12 UTC  

?

2018-06-28 10:10:07 UTC  

Are we implying that printed money is financed in a way to put money in the pockets of those that manage it?

2018-06-28 10:10:39 UTC  

Is the pope catholic? Of course that’s what happens.

2018-06-28 10:10:56 UTC  

So finance is shitty and corrupt. How is that like 1984?

2018-06-28 10:11:19 UTC  

In 1984 resources are wasted so people remain too poor and uneducated to rise up, or to disrupt the social order. How is that anything like the UK?

2018-06-28 10:11:33 UTC  

People make a million comparisons to 1984 every fucking day but it seems like most of them have never opened it.

2018-06-28 10:12:03 UTC  

It's just sensational.

2018-06-28 10:12:09 UTC  

Has no bearing with reality.

2018-06-28 10:12:20 UTC  

I said it was a mix between 1984 and brave new world

2018-06-28 10:13:44 UTC  

But yes, in the U.K. people are mis-educated into a complete fantasy world and hard left ideology, and money is deliberately squandered on geopolitical pissing games and a permanent nonwhite, Islamic underclass.

2018-06-28 10:14:06 UTC  

>liberals are "hard left"
Found the centrist.

2018-06-28 10:14:16 UTC  

?

2018-06-28 10:14:49 UTC  

The Labour Party are literally communists. They sing the internationale at their rallies.

2018-06-28 10:15:23 UTC  

They're Democratic Socialists. The Internationale is not for communists only buddy. They're just a bunch of braindead LARPers as far as anyone who knows anything is concerned.

2018-06-28 10:15:46 UTC  

Democratic socialists in name, communists in deed.

2018-06-28 10:15:51 UTC  

Stalin would have had them shot for being social fascists.

2018-06-28 10:16:25 UTC  

Communists want the complete subservience of every facet of life to the state in practice, and the complete destruction of the state in theory. I wouldn't compare Labour to Marx ay day of the week.

2018-06-28 10:16:42 UTC  

That’s exactly what the Labour Party want.

2018-06-28 10:17:09 UTC  

the labor party literaly wants to do what stalin did!!

2018-06-28 10:17:12 UTC  

But they are a political organisation so they do what they realistically can from where they are.

2018-06-28 10:17:37 UTC  

Labour is pretty broad. I'm sure there are hardliners, but no, I wouldn't say party politics is Stalinist in nature. That would be a big laugh.

2018-06-28 10:17:57 UTC  

Because you are conflating communism with Stalinism, which is disingenuous.

2018-06-28 10:18:18 UTC  

"Communists want the complete subservience of every facet of life to the state in practice, and the complete destruction of the state in theory."
"That’s exactly what the Labour Party want."

2018-06-28 10:18:38 UTC  

Yes, that’s what I said. That’s not necessarily Stalinism.

2018-06-28 10:18:50 UTC  

Marxism-Leninism is exactly that, which is often conflated with Stalinism for very good reason.

2018-06-28 10:19:10 UTC  

So no it's not really disingenuous.

2018-06-28 10:19:28 UTC  

Right. Well either way they are communists. They sing the commie songs and do the commie things, and aim for that as a communist end. So they are communists.

2018-06-28 10:19:58 UTC  

Hold on, Markov said something very relevant to this. Let me find it.

2018-06-28 10:20:13 UTC  

"When Western revolutionaries shout about radical change in the world and a happy future life under socialism or Communism, we want to tell them: 'Come join us, under the lid; come live your happy life here!' They do not know the meaning of the words they mouth and they become intoxicated by their infantile fantasies. We know the meaning. We have paid the highest price to learn it."

2018-06-28 10:20:27 UTC  

Of course they don’t think of it in the terms of “total subservience to the state”. They put it in terms of “ending institutional oppression” or whatever Marxist word stew they have cooked up this week. But they are communists.

2018-06-28 10:20:29 UTC  

Democratic Socialists are just fucking LARPers. They like to sing the commie songs and do the commie things, but they aren't communists.

2018-06-28 10:21:08 UTC  

uhhhhh Marx was totally against his own contemporary version of the liberal shitshow in Western countries today. He viewed social justice as we know it as a diversion from proletariat struggle.