I don’t understand what’s so difficult to get. Whites in America have had a long time of intermixing. Basques have always remained separate from Spain

They have always had their own ethnic territory and remained separate

I see your point, although I don't feel it's a strong one. American identity is artificial, and weak.

There are even maps of Spain showing the genetic distinction of the basques

Yes but it’s there and one day it will be strong identity as it was in the past

But we have already established that you're wrong on that part about history.

Irrelevant to your point though.

Right now collective white identity is weak but it will get stronger as more and more white people realise that nonwhites don’t care about whether they are American or Norwegian, only that they are white.

That wasn’t established. We just moved on from it because it was a digression.

It's a fringe movement because it's artificial and weak.

There is no common history or traditions.

Yes but it exists and it will flippen the mainstream

It will be normative to think of oneself as white

But you've yet to show me a precedent.

I just did. White America

But we have already established that you're wrong on that part about history.

Full circle. Cool!

Regardless of the history, white america is an ethnic group now, which is the point.

You said you "could not be bothered" to show me some contemporary literature that shows it was mainstream belief, which tells me you haven't done your research and just draw your own conclusions from the aforementioned cliches.

You can't establish a precedent.

White America is a precedent.

Are we about to do this a third time, where I tell you you're wrong and you accept it and move onto another point that goes back to how you're wrong again?

Sorry I’m not having this discussion anymore.

White America as you seem to understand it doesn't exist.

Show me some literature.

Literally every leftist rag and their dog slags off white america.

White America is an ethnic identity, even if it is just in the mouths of our enemies.

Yeah, but where is the historical precedent you're using as evidence that it will ever move beyond the pathetic fringe movement it currently is? Is that not the discussion we're having?

You are at a point where you are denying an obvious reality. White America voted trump. White America likes guns and white america is a thing.

Please don't do it a third time. My patience is only close to infinite.

“Pathetic” is it, huh? Talk about being a hater.

I live in America. The people that voted for Trump for muh white nationalism 56% are a slim slim minority, but still all of those votes went to him for obvious reasons.

Yes because people vote with their guts and their brain makes up a socially acceptable reason after.

Just because someone is too afraid to *acknowledge* their group identity does not mean they *dont have* a group identity.

People voted for Trump for a myriad of reasons but white nationalism is on the very very bottom of that list, and ironically something that the liberal left have grossly exaggerated for the purpose of making him look bad which you now seize upon to make him look good.

And again, as someone who fucking lives here, white nationalism is very fringe.

Sorry but that's the fact.

White people voted for Trump because it’s in their interests.

They subconsciously voted with their lizard brains to save their white race they don't acknowledge beyond when they look down at their hands.

Yes that’s entirely normal.

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