Message from @Zavjeru

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2018-08-15 01:44:00 UTC  

No pope needed

2018-08-15 01:44:06 UTC  

@Zavjeru Bible teaches the only middle man is Jesus

2018-08-15 01:44:20 UTC  

Catholics @Doctor Anon

2018-08-15 01:44:24 UTC  

The Pope as a Representative is heresy and sinful

2018-08-15 01:44:59 UTC  

I would agree. He is a man therefore fallible.

2018-08-15 01:45:35 UTC  

I'm cool with living beside Christians as much as the next guy, hell, Martin Luther was kind of a boss... but why would you still actually, you know, believe in that stuff?

2018-08-15 01:46:13 UTC  

>athiest

2018-08-15 01:46:27 UTC  

Atheist 🙄

2018-08-15 01:46:32 UTC  

Agnostic

2018-08-15 01:46:55 UTC  

Atheist lite

2018-08-15 01:47:15 UTC  

Oh, I am an Atheist as well, just narrowing it down 😉

2018-08-15 01:47:25 UTC  

Like I said, got nothing against Christians

2018-08-15 01:47:37 UTC  

And I got nothing against you

2018-08-15 01:47:40 UTC  

Just curious

2018-08-15 01:48:22 UTC  

The answer is faith.

2018-08-15 01:48:36 UTC  

So you value faith over empiricism?

2018-08-15 01:48:47 UTC  

I’m not going to elaborate

2018-08-15 01:48:58 UTC  

Fair enough. I am honestly curious.

2018-08-15 01:49:08 UTC  

Values do matter very much to me.

2018-08-15 01:50:09 UTC  

If you are indeed curious either read a bible or attend a local church service. They would be much better at answering your questions in person than one can do online.

2018-08-15 01:50:45 UTC  

I've attended many, I used to be a Christian when I was young myself. I was curious why individuals here would still believe in it.

2018-08-15 01:50:57 UTC  

And I read the bible already

2018-08-15 01:51:08 UTC  

I used to be athiest, then i converted.

2018-08-15 01:51:22 UTC  

atheism is depressing

2018-08-15 01:51:25 UTC  

sad life

2018-08-15 01:51:43 UTC  

So you converted because you found it to be too much emotionally?

2018-08-15 01:51:59 UTC  

no

2018-08-15 01:52:11 UTC  

So why did you convert?

2018-08-15 01:52:18 UTC  

Why accept the void of nothingness? If I am wrong when I die I’ll never know. Yet if I am right and atheism is wrong well that sucks for atheist.

2018-08-15 01:53:02 UTC  

Pascal's Wager has been debunked

2018-08-15 01:53:38 UTC  

I converted after looking into the odds of humanity existing, and drawing correlations between the big bang theory and the biblical story of creation. Among hundreds of other correlations between scientific fact and biblical teachings. I think science is not anti-christian, quite the opposite.

2018-08-15 01:54:11 UTC  

Hello!

2018-08-15 01:54:17 UTC  

Intelligent design is a good thing to look into.

2018-08-15 01:54:45 UTC  

Gwyn, you are aware that Pascal's Wager has been debunked, correct?

2018-08-15 01:55:58 UTC  

Doctor Anon - Which creation story are you talking about?

2018-08-15 01:56:12 UTC  

its been DEBUNKED xdxdxd

2018-08-15 01:56:21 UTC  

🤣

2018-08-15 01:56:48 UTC  

Pray tell who came back from the dead and told us idiots?

2018-08-15 02:00:53 UTC  

It's simple rationality. You would have to apply it to all faiths, not just one. So there is the Pascal's Wager of Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, Islam, Taoism, etc... Each one, by not believing in them, you are taking a risk. Pascal's Wager only applies to believing in some sort of afterlife-reward versus not, but the problem arises when you take into account that there are thousands of different possible ones to believe in, and most are quite exclusionary for receiving the ultimate prize.

This is without taking into account the fact that if one lives their life according to a religious code that prevents them from fully experiencing their short time on earth and they are wrong, then they have squandered precious years of a finite existence.

Therefore, Pascal's Wager, even from a superficial analysis, is quite flawed.

2018-08-15 02:01:31 UTC  

^^