in these studies, is culture accounted for

That seems like a good rule. To immediately say haplogroup to people I know, it would require explanation of the word. However it would diffuse the hostility people sometimes show when race is mentioned.

is culture accounted for in height

or predisposition to alzheimers

bipolar

etc

no and it's widely accepted these are genetic

I mean, specific european cultures seriously changed the native cultures with colonisation, but when given back to its natives, the culture reverts does it not?

you'

we're debating on whether IQ is fixed because of genes

and you justified by claim by stating your claim, you said ''x is y because x is y''

"Iq is fixed"

u wot

I said there is a maximum potential at birth presumably as a result of genetics

In the same way there is a maximum height at birth presumably as a result of genetics

I've said ''fixed'' multiples times

so now you're saying that certain groups have a higher maximum iq

and you've compared it to height

i mean the person with the highest IQ on earth is a woman yet women have on average 3.5 points lower IQ than men so there is room for outliers definitely. in spite of this there are definite general trends among IQ and gender and race that cannot and should not be ignored

logic

cannot

have

exceptions

do you even understand statistics

and the concept of statistical outliers

because it seems to me like you don't

yes

ok then if you understand the concept of an outlier you can understand what i said

and culture and haplogroups exist!

so idk what that whole thing about logic having exceptions is

7 billion people won’t always fit perfectly in the box. Most however will fit in said box.

^^^^

you're saying ''women are dumber but the smartest person is a woman but she doesn't count''

i never said she doesnt count i said shes an outlier

You are saying that its foolish to stereotype people by race + appearance because of exceptions, no matter how small?

whenever you bring up black iq being lower than whites everyone says shit like "THERE HAVE BEEN BLACK SCIENTISTS" yes there have but with regards to proportion of total population there are more white scientists per 100 people than there are black scientists

just because some individuals dont fit the general trend doesnt mean there is no trend

you literally said the same genes that determine ''race'' also determine IQ

so how could there be a black scientist

That's like walking up to a tiger as a kid and petting it because one of them is peaceful and won't fucking eat you

then saying there is no link between tigers and carnivores