Message from @εïз irma εïз

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2018-08-27 00:33:01 UTC  

@εïз irma εïз My dad believes in the "muh state's rights" meme

2018-08-27 00:33:54 UTC  

And no matter what evidence I show him against it, he won't accept it as proof because it's either "on the internet, so someone made it up" or if it's in print, then "it's just revisionist propaganda"

2018-08-27 00:34:54 UTC  

Have you shown him the original documents detailing the reasons for secession?

2018-08-27 00:38:08 UTC  

I've tried to

2018-08-27 00:38:54 UTC  

But the only way I can show them to him is by finding it online, and my dad is one of those proto-boomer types that thinks anything found on the internet is a work of fabrication when it doesn't confirm what he thinks @εïз irma εïз

2018-08-27 00:39:08 UTC  

You have to kill him.

2018-08-27 00:39:48 UTC  

find the original documents in a museum

2018-08-27 00:39:51 UTC  

20 min until livestream debate

2018-08-27 00:55:22 UTC  

Some old encyclopedias may have the information or college libary

2018-08-27 01:04:12 UTC  

@εïз irma εïз that’s patently incorrect revisionism

2018-08-27 01:04:36 UTC  

The issue of slavery was the root cause of the confederacy seceding from the union

2018-08-27 01:05:18 UTC  

Lincoln’s personal feelings dug up from his journals on the matter aside

2018-08-27 01:07:00 UTC  

Literally what I said.

2018-08-27 01:07:26 UTC  

You're losing your touch. You did the same thing yesterday.

2018-08-27 01:07:31 UTC  

👎

2018-08-27 01:07:53 UTC  

That’s not what you said at all

2018-08-27 01:08:06 UTC  

I’m re-reading your comments

2018-08-27 01:08:21 UTC  

You're free to rereread them.

2018-08-27 01:08:23 UTC  

The issue of slavery was central in political conversations of the day

2018-08-27 01:08:32 UTC  

You are claiming otherwise

2018-08-27 01:08:43 UTC  

It's exactly what I'm claiming though.

2018-08-27 01:08:54 UTC  

Why is it that everyday I have to correct another arrogant “hot take” from you

2018-08-27 01:09:16 UTC  

Again, you are free to rereread.

2018-08-27 01:10:38 UTC  

“The Civil War was about slavery to the south but didn't become an issue for the North until 1863.”

2018-08-27 01:11:01 UTC  

Just wrong on so many accounts

2018-08-27 01:11:17 UTC  

Hurr Durr

2018-08-27 01:11:21 UTC  

You literally pulled a date out of your ass to sound more intelligent

2018-08-27 01:11:26 UTC  

Lincoln did not want to risk losing support from vital border states like Maryland which were vital for supplying assaults into the South.

2018-08-27 01:11:42 UTC  

It wasn't until later that it became a moralizing issue.

2018-08-27 01:11:59 UTC  

That’s patently false

2018-08-27 01:12:06 UTC  

And you know it

2018-08-27 01:12:16 UTC  

That’s downright revisionism

2018-08-27 01:12:18 UTC  

1863 was the Emancipation Proclamation, so no. Not pulled out of my ass.

2018-08-27 01:12:27 UTC  

How are you so horribly ignorant?

2018-08-27 01:12:32 UTC  

Stop wasting my time. 🤷

2018-08-27 01:12:43 UTC  

And just please I take issue with nuance doesn’t mean that I am disregarding your words

2018-08-27 01:12:59 UTC  

The discussion on slavery began before that

2018-08-27 01:13:17 UTC  

One would argue it was an issue for the north years before the civil war

2018-08-27 01:13:31 UTC  

But you read excerpts from Lincoln’s journals

2018-08-27 01:14:01 UTC  

And came to this absurd conclusion that 1863 is the date that slavery becomes an issue for the north

2018-08-27 01:14:09 UTC  

It’s just wrong on so many levels