Capitalism must exceed the nations borders to work properly

@Da_Fish no

Free trade is vital to the free market

Free Trade within a country

A country cannot provide everything by itself

international trade has always existed for that purpose

I feel like the best system would be if every large nation had a free market, with cross-border trade being regulated but still an important aspect of the economy

A country should always move to being able to sustain itself without needing to import goods needed for survival

Tariffs suck

for everyone involved

We have many examples of failed tariffing in the US

A country should not need to import goods needs to survive

I'm talking about luxury resources

Im not talking about luxury bullshit

that people __want__ not __need__

We aren't algeria

we can sustain americans on american crops

which is why we import so little food

unless it doesnt grow in our climate

Im sure you can agree a country should produce it's own steel, cars, minerals, and most other goods

Like Bananas

@Da_Fish Surely you can agree a country should not import what it can readily make in it's borders

Let the market decide

@Deleted User why are you a staff

lower prices are more important

@Da_Fish uh no

Lower prices are not more important

Protectionism sacrifices the benefits of comparative advantage for BOTH countries, but it encourages localized production of goods, which is essential if you ever go to war, because once you go to war you can't use the other country's industrial capacity anymore.

true

however

In the case of war USA would be fine

we are the breadbasket of the world

@Da_Fish the hidden benefit of protection is that when companies are producing locally, it becomes MUCH easier for independent citizens to compete in the marketplace, because they can work for themselves for free, whereas larger companies must pay relatively high wages. So while we might be theoretically "poorer" by not producing in the cheapest way across country lines, the protection creates a situation in which the protected market has more competition and relative equality

I'm talking about things that aren't basic human needs

Protectionism has a long history of failure in the USA

It almost caused a civil war

during the nullification crisis

Because they did it in the most idiotic way possible

the Smoot-Hawley tariff act further collapsed the economy

alright I got my 8values

during the depression