ok and before all that

and also - no you cant prove that nations promoted civilization

you can prove that technology did

Before all that there were communities, not civilizations.

but technology =/= nation

????

are you retarded?

bro civilization is the most advanced interdependant body available at the time

on said planet

meaning

humans always had civilization

even in hunter gatherer times

because there was nothing beyond that

its just terminology

the stage of human social and cultural development and organization that is considered most advanced.
"they equated the railroad with progress and civilization"
synonyms: human development · advancement · progress · enlightenment · edification · culture · cultivation · refinement · sophistication

`Civilization is the opposite of barbarism and chaos. Civilization is an advanced stage of human society, where people live with a reasonable degree of organization and comfort and can think about things like art and education.`

Its a very basic bitch

HUNTERS AND GATHERERS WERE NOT BARBARIANS

you retard

Ovarix is otter 2.0 @campodin ?

It was chaos, it wasn't an advanced stage of human society, as the definition shows.

@Doctor Anon this guy is unironically retarded.

he claims not to be, I think

LOL "it was chaos" find me a time in history

where there isn't chaos

find me one time

where the world isnt going to shit somewhere

I can't handle this retard.

I can't tell the difference between the two

He's unironically this stupid.

Otter is just a troll @campodin

This guy is serious

@Deleted User dude you dont even know the definition of civilization

How many of you are in college

honestly

@Ovarix Have fun trying to have a reasonable argument without taking this to <#452955229227319306>

"how many of you are in college" <:HyperLmao:459545665517780993>

No seriously

how many of you

are pursuing

higher education