i've never seen that last one

construct

in the context

of being proud of the "nation"

it should be proud of the state

the "nation" is the moldable part

Omg, this is comedy gold.

@Ovarix are you a libertarian by any chance?

no

@Deleted User that's what I'm saying

I am a conservative authoritarian / paternal conservative. I think the state is the center of life

Without nationalism there would be no Civilization, to begin with.

I think all else is nignog thinking and distraction

WHAT

YOU THINK THERE WAS NO CIVILIZATION

BEFORE NATIONS

done

That's not what I said.

Ok what if I was a localist

and I believe in my local town

it isnt a nation

actually yes, civilizations were built on nations

no civilizations were built since hunter and gatherer times

those were not nations

local town is not a civilization

you are the dumbest of niggers if you think that

LOCAL TOWN IS NOT A CIV - ok someone

kill him

actually kill him

>hunter gatherers had civilization

YES THEY DID

DO YOU KNOW

WHAT THE WORD

MEANS

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE WORD CIVILIZATION MEANS

Humans always had *some* variant of civilization

The idea of nationalism inspired empires, ancient and modern nations.
Civilizations started developing thanks to nationalism. As in, Civilization has evolved to what it is today thanks to nationalism.

ok and before all that

and also - no you cant prove that nations promoted civilization

you can prove that technology did

Before all that there were communities, not civilizations.