Message from @PebbЛe

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2018-11-02 03:36:40 UTC  

yeah

2018-11-02 03:38:19 UTC  

the Shema does not imply that the trinity is not real

2018-11-02 03:38:29 UTC  

it is saying that YHVH is God

2018-11-02 03:39:09 UTC  

Lol why the fuck cant they just say he shape shifts lmao

2018-11-02 03:39:27 UTC  

Hebrews 1:2 seems to imply that the Son is not eternal, he was created by God.

2018-11-02 03:39:34 UTC  

Shape shifting merchant on a stick

2018-11-02 03:40:53 UTC  

he has spoken to us __by his Son__, whom he appointed __heir of all things__, and through __whom also he made the universe.__

2018-11-02 03:40:54 UTC  

Pebble, 1 Corinthians 3:16 and Hebrews 1:2 both seem to imply that the Holy Spirit and the Son are *owned* by God and that they were created by God.

2018-11-02 03:41:10 UTC  

They do not imply that

2018-11-02 03:41:26 UTC  

John 10:30 and John 17:21-22 are also good

2018-11-02 03:42:00 UTC  

John 10:30 implys that, yes, they are one.

2018-11-02 03:42:04 UTC  

One being.

2018-11-02 03:42:08 UTC  

Not seperate.

2018-11-02 03:42:24 UTC  

Yes they are an indivisible essence

2018-11-02 03:42:29 UTC  

but the Son could never be the Father

2018-11-02 03:42:32 UTC  

but they are God

2018-11-02 03:42:44 UTC  

The Son *is* the Father and the Father *is* the son

2018-11-02 03:42:58 UTC  

Thats how much absolute divinity God has

2018-11-02 03:43:07 UTC  

He has no logical contstraints

2018-11-02 03:43:07 UTC  

that's not how it works

2018-11-02 03:43:31 UTC  

The three existing separately and having self-consciousness separate from the others means one is not the other

2018-11-02 03:43:36 UTC  

the Father would not experience temptation of man

2018-11-02 03:43:39 UTC  

"Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me…” Isaiah 46:9

2018-11-02 03:43:50 UTC  

thank you for the monotheistic verse

2018-11-02 03:43:57 UTC  

the father would not experience temptation of man

2018-11-02 03:44:04 UTC  

but the Son in the mortal substrate that is a body did

2018-11-02 03:44:12 UTC  

but through the divinity

2018-11-02 03:44:13 UTC  

did not act on it

2018-11-02 03:45:32 UTC  

They are of separate consciousness, but God has absolute Divinity, so absolute, i'd be firm in stating he knows the other 2's consciousness, for he is __above__ the other 2. The Godhead rules supreme.

2018-11-02 03:45:46 UTC  

And can control them at his will.

2018-11-02 03:46:03 UTC  

you're saying what i'm saying

2018-11-02 03:46:13 UTC  

Oh

2018-11-02 03:46:34 UTC  

Unless you're saying God instead of father

2018-11-02 03:46:42 UTC  

Because they all have absolute divinity

2018-11-02 03:46:49 UTC  

Father

2018-11-02 03:46:50 UTC  

I mean Father

2018-11-02 03:47:08 UTC  

God is one being, not 3 united in one, its *one*.

2018-11-02 03:47:30 UTC  

Its not like 3 cells make up 1 entity, its 1 cell.

2018-11-02 03:47:48 UTC  

The essence is indivisible

2018-11-02 03:47:54 UTC  

The divinity is not fractured

2018-11-02 03:48:08 UTC  

My current belief and what i've been taught is that:
God *is* the Holy Spirit
The holy spirit *is* God
The son *is* God
God *is* the son