Message from @Farao Ramses II

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2019-08-04 20:30:04 UTC  

which is fair enough

2019-08-04 20:30:19 UTC  

Social cohesion was fucked before the brown people arrived, so I am not that worried.

2019-08-04 20:30:46 UTC  

if you accept the iq evaluations then it affects crime rate, poverty, productivity and so on

2019-08-04 20:31:47 UTC  

I am not so certain about those though. Besides, there are plenty a white population filled with mentally underdeveloped folks, so yeah.

2019-08-04 20:32:06 UTC  

Although that is an anecdotal argument.

2019-08-04 20:32:10 UTC  

Still.

2019-08-04 20:32:36 UTC  

I see humans foremost as individuals and will judge them based on their individual character and individual abilities.

2019-08-04 20:32:37 UTC  

iq isnt concrete across ethnicities, its average

2019-08-04 20:33:02 UTC  

I am not following that statement, please clarify.

2019-08-04 20:34:29 UTC  

so basically of course youll see differences within a common population, some white people with higher and some white people with lower iq

2019-08-04 20:34:40 UTC  

Ah, in that sense.

2019-08-04 20:34:42 UTC  

its a bellcurve

2019-08-04 20:34:58 UTC  

but some bellcurves are tighter or higher up on average

2019-08-04 20:35:08 UTC  

like men have larger bellcurves than women in iq

2019-08-04 20:35:14 UTC  

with more people on the extremes

2019-08-04 20:35:37 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/526921073397071892/607673015240622092/bell-curve.png

2019-08-04 20:35:42 UTC  

an example

2019-08-04 20:36:44 UTC  

I fail to see why this should matter in a political sense though.

2019-08-04 20:37:13 UTC  

It affects polices and casual relationship with the information the supports policy

2019-08-04 20:37:53 UTC  

if you believe all human are equal in intelligence than it makes sense that if you see any particular group fall behind, it must be due external factors

2019-08-04 20:38:13 UTC  

I hold no such believe.

2019-08-04 20:38:20 UTC  

in comparison, if you understand the opposite to be true, than you wont hold that position

2019-08-04 20:38:27 UTC  

But again: one way or another I fail to see how that matters politically.

2019-08-04 20:38:28 UTC  

more so a hypothetical

2019-08-04 20:39:05 UTC  

does political policies matter?

2019-08-04 20:39:17 UTC  

like affirmative action or positive action?

2019-08-04 20:39:53 UTC  

I mean, policy itself is inherently consequential.

2019-08-04 20:39:55 UTC  

or wealth redistribution policies

2019-08-04 20:40:06 UTC  

What?

2019-08-04 20:40:10 UTC  

But this isn't even about policy, this is merely a scientific point.

2019-08-04 20:40:23 UTC  

policy is very consequential, it affects our quality of life

2019-08-04 20:40:29 UTC  

policy is based on information

2019-08-04 20:40:42 UTC  

Policy is mostly based on desire.

2019-08-04 20:40:48 UTC  

that information can be analyzed in a scientific matter

2019-08-04 20:41:03 UTC  

and proven wrong or right

2019-08-04 20:41:46 UTC  

Science can merely inform you in regard to how reality functions.

2019-08-04 20:42:25 UTC  

You can consider scientific facts in regard to setting policy, but the policy is merely set to reach a desired outcome, regardless of the scientific fact per se.

2019-08-04 20:42:39 UTC  

and how you think reality operates affects your desires

2019-08-04 20:43:04 UTC  

I do not contest that. Not entirely at least.

2019-08-04 20:43:08 UTC  

like the desire to stop climate change is based on research that shows climate change is problematic

2019-08-04 20:43:20 UTC  

Err...