Message from @Huey Long

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2018-06-02 10:07:47 UTC  

Oh. Apologies.

2018-06-02 10:08:20 UTC  

The idea of sullying Pan-Arab nationalism with nazism gets to me.

2018-06-02 10:40:03 UTC  

Ba’athism is Islamic Socialism

2018-06-02 10:40:17 UTC  

Mixed with Pan-Arab Nationalism

2018-06-02 10:40:32 UTC  

Formed in opposition to the Ottomans and Western Imperialist powers

2018-06-02 10:40:35 UTC  

It's secular

2018-06-02 10:40:53 UTC  

@Aemon it still practices Islamic economics

2018-06-02 10:40:59 UTC  

Even though it is secular

2018-06-02 10:41:07 UTC  

Oh you meant like culturally Islamic

2018-06-02 10:41:51 UTC  

Ba'athism was made by a Christian. It's secular, although it views Islam as a great Arab cultural achievement in which all Arabs can take pride in

2018-06-02 10:42:53 UTC  

Ba'athism is basically nazbol

2018-06-02 10:43:26 UTC  

@Huey Long what else can they?

2018-06-02 10:44:33 UTC  

Arabs made massive achievements in science and such right after the Christionization of Europe

2018-06-02 10:45:04 UTC  

@Aemon their Golden Age was temporary

2018-06-02 10:45:15 UTC  

So is the Golden Age of almost everything

2018-06-02 10:45:24 UTC  

What are you trying to say?

2018-06-02 10:45:38 UTC  

Yes but they were less effective with theirs compared to other regions golden ages

2018-06-02 10:46:31 UTC  

More effective than plenty of others. And what does it matter? It doesn't make Arabs inferior, lol

2018-06-02 10:46:43 UTC  

I didn’t say that

2018-06-02 10:47:02 UTC  

Everyone should be communist anyway

2018-06-02 10:47:33 UTC  

Pfft, communist parties are either liberal sell-outs or non-entities

2018-06-02 10:48:19 UTC  

Yes currently

2018-06-02 10:48:22 UTC  

@Huey Long ehh, the CPRF aren't liberals or sellouts

2018-06-02 10:49:21 UTC  

They're liberal sell outs. Their hardline communist wing is dying of old age and being replaced by progressive liberals that go communist because every other liberal party sucks balls. This is Russia fortunately, we have a grip on liberalism.

2018-06-02 10:50:00 UTC  

Zuganov and Grudinin aren't liberals.

2018-06-02 10:50:04 UTC  

The True Golden Age will come when everyone realizes communism is the only way

2018-06-02 10:50:21 UTC  

The party-line of the CPRF is very pro-Stalin

2018-06-02 10:51:30 UTC  

Zyuganov and Grudinin are a dying breed. They're too conservative for the youth.

2018-06-02 10:52:17 UTC  

@Huey Long there still are plenty of young Russians who rate Stalin highly.

2018-06-02 10:53:25 UTC  

Stalin was voted the best Russian of all time by the Russian people. Yes, the youth are slightly more liberal than the elderly but still.

2018-06-02 10:54:07 UTC  

Stalin is adored by almost everyone, leftist or not. Only people who remember his religious persecution actively hate him.

2018-06-02 10:54:43 UTC  

@Huey Long there wasn't really any huge scale religious persecution though.

2018-06-02 10:54:57 UTC  

Under Lenin or Stalin

2018-06-02 10:55:16 UTC  

There was, and the Orthodox Church remembers it keenly.

2018-06-02 10:56:17 UTC  

It was only the churches and priests who actively criticised the government that were arrested or demolished.

2018-06-02 10:57:50 UTC  

Of course, the oligarchs hate Stalin and that is probably the main group and since they control almost everything they can brainwash people into thinking Stalin was bad.

2018-06-02 10:59:29 UTC  

Ehhh... no-o-o-o. The Oligarchs are rich, sure, and influential, but Putin has strong-armed most into staying in line.

2018-06-02 10:59:38 UTC  

They follow Putin, not the other way around

2018-06-02 11:01:41 UTC  

Putin is highly critical of Stalin. He is spreading more misinformation about him. For example he had a memorial of the victims of Stalin built.

2018-06-02 11:02:21 UTC  

I sorta included Putin as an oligarch since he may as well be one.

2018-06-02 11:06:36 UTC  

Putin owns a large share of the national oil company’s shares