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Sanders got pretty close and he was Democratic Socialist, I don't think it's impossible.
those two quotes seem to contradict each other though.
the first one claims that Trotsky was unwilling to sign Brest-Litovsk, beneficial to end the war. then the second one argues that Trotsky proposed Brest-Litovsk even though it was unfavorable.
@ajsbeast Bernie Sanders is not a socialist, even though he called himself one. He is a social democrat who has been an outspoken proponent of the "Nordic Model" which is just capitalism plus an extensive social safety net. It's Keynesian welfarism implemented by a Liberal Democratic state within the framework of capitalism.
In the US system that's serious change.
and way left then what's generally okay.
I think it's the right direction.
@ajsbeast however with the Nordic model, we’ve seen them stay still where they are at
They don’t plan on moving any further
Exactly.
true, but I don't see why people who support universal healthcare, worker unions, and similar benefits would feel the need to stop there.
I certainly wouldn't
The inherent contradictions of capitalism can never be fully resolved under such an arrangement.
Every social democrat country has
Look at the Economic Freedom Index and you will see they are extremely high, when (American) conservatives are pointing out just how capitalist they are. You shouldn’t be celebrating them
I have to sleep, it's pretty late now. nice talking though.
@ajsbeast The capitalist mode of production prevails in every single country that has implemented social democracy and they don't ever plan on moving beyond it to the socialist mode of production.
Have a good one.
yeah, thanks for talking with me.
No problem. Glad to help.
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for the communist party
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its other stalin
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