Message from @Limedalek

Discord ID: 451833292250152960


2018-05-31 19:40:04 UTC  

Profit and hegemony

2018-05-31 19:40:36 UTC  

@Deleted User I'll seize your mom's means of production AKA her vagina.

2018-05-31 19:40:55 UTC  

We'll be producing some fine kids. Though I'll probably abort them. Don't want her shitty genes.

2018-05-31 19:41:11 UTC  

@Meta You'll use your means of suction on your own means of reproduction.

2018-05-31 19:41:32 UTC  

@Deleted User ahahahahahaha WEAK.

2018-05-31 19:41:36 UTC  

Alright anyways. Thigh pics.

2018-05-31 19:41:38 UTC  

Send em.

2018-05-31 19:41:45 UTC  

had there been an uprising in the UK instead of russia the use of the word imperialism by socialists and communists would be non existent

2018-05-31 19:41:54 UTC  

What a shame

2018-05-31 19:41:55 UTC  

So this isn't even a debate just kiddy playground insults

2018-05-31 19:42:16 UTC  

Didn't expect fash to make even arguments except "fuckwd you mooom loool cucked

2018-05-31 19:42:32 UTC  

@Deleted User You think I would waste my time debating this scrub?

2018-05-31 19:42:35 UTC  

I made plenty of arguments.

2018-05-31 19:42:41 UTC  

I argued that I will fuck his mom.

2018-05-31 19:42:47 UTC  

It is a very compelling notion.

2018-05-31 19:42:49 UTC  

Lol

2018-05-31 19:42:59 UTC  

Kiddo

2018-05-31 19:43:00 UTC  

I watch Rick and Morty so I know what I'm doing.

2018-05-31 19:43:11 UTC  

Ok kid

@Mr.AnalTwister4000 Capitalistic encirlement would still exist

2018-05-31 19:44:11 UTC  

this place is an adult baby daycare centre

the french empire for example

2018-05-31 19:44:20 UTC  

come again?

wouldn't just let a revolution like that slip by

they would take advantage with it

and ally with other bourgeisie forces to taking down the new 'british union'

unified in destroying dangeorus extremism like communism.

so no imperialism would still exist

also you're pretending as if Russia wasn't an imperialistic empire before the soviet union 😂 it was like the UK

the only way imperialism wouldn't appear in communist literature is if the global revolution had occured without any other previous communist revolutions so that capitalist encirclement did not occur.

2018-05-31 19:47:15 UTC  

I'm arguing that as there didnt exist any successful revoloutions in an "imperialist" country at size of UK which is why the use of the word is so prominent among communists. also there was that part with the treaty of brest litovsk

2018-05-31 19:47:46 UTC  

who is this elite of bourgeois

I see your point considering russia was a feudalistic imperialist country in comparison to imperialism as the highest order of capitalism like UK or France

but still there would be other 'capitalist imperialist' states

and communists would just look at that and develop a theory of imperialism

2018-05-31 19:50:08 UTC  

thats not what I'm saying. I'm saying the use of the word is so prominent because the communists hated what they did not have

and im saying that the theory of imperialism doesn't magically disappear if the revolution occured in the Uk or France there is still capitalist encirclement there is still monopoly capitalism it would still be prominent, imperialism would still be a problem for the new British Union which has to now 'de-imperialize' their country. and destroy the old reactionary order.

2018-05-31 19:54:01 UTC  

had the UK become a socialist country in their times of the empire they certainly wouldn't "de-imperialize" (be it they still held control of their former territories). just like the soviet union didnt "de-imperialize" their own country but continued to expand

that's under the guise that the USSR was imperialist, it's not, it headed the anti-imperialist movement lol.
The UK would de-imperialize because those are the material conditions that result from a communist uprising.

2018-05-31 19:57:00 UTC  

"anti-imperialist" only to those who wish to see it that way. sure they had reformed their ideals and a new flag but it was simply the recreation of the russian empire and at the end of the war, larger than it had been.

imperialism is a very specific form of expansion driven by specific material conditions. Not all expansion is 'imperialistic' because not all expansion is driven by the creation of a bourgeoisie order or the creation of the capitalist mode of production.