Message from @🌼Kalina🌹🌸🌹Zay🌹🌸🌹Scott🌼

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2018-06-03 00:01:33 UTC  

it's a land of day-1 minecraft dirt houses

2018-06-03 00:02:09 UTC  

So what?

2018-06-03 00:02:26 UTC  

You still can't murder them and take it

2018-06-03 00:05:09 UTC  

@karbon So because a people chooses to engage with nature in a different manner and live according to their own standards, that somehow makes them lesser? Are they somehow unworthy of their homeland because they don't conform to your standards?

2018-06-03 00:05:21 UTC  

^

2018-06-03 00:06:46 UTC  

Shit! Have we been forgetting to put "don't conquer us" clauses in our treaties? Somebody better tell the State Department.

This is like john locke acting like "Oh i support private property but you know fuck Native Americans too dumb to read my book, the Europeans could put their land to better use."

2018-06-03 00:07:35 UTC  

either way, their way of life is going to stop existing when the other countries start advancing unless they refuse to trade with any of the more advanced nations

2018-06-03 00:07:38 UTC  

@karbon What age level do you consider the logic "I'm bigger and stronger so I can take anything I want from you?"

2018-06-03 00:07:54 UTC  

It sounds about 5 to me

Read the social contract by Rosseau if you want to see why the might makes right argument is bullshit

OR i could summarise the point by saying, a highwayman is more powerful than me and thinks he could put my wealth to better use and so robs me with the might he has.

Does that make the highwayman righteous and therefore not a criminal?

2018-06-03 00:10:42 UTC  

the analogy breaks down because the highwayman isn't bringing technology and development

He has a gun. I dont

He has the superior technology i dont

2018-06-03 00:11:17 UTC  

here in america, we all have guns

He wants to use my wealthto develop himself

No but my point is in this hypothetical scenario is the highway man righteous?

2018-06-03 00:12:23 UTC  

Wait

2018-06-03 00:12:28 UTC  

my point is that it doesnt matter because the highwayman is going to do it regardless of the reasons you try to rationalize to him

2018-06-03 00:12:37 UTC  

Why is the "libertarian" telling us how other people should live there lives

If it were inevitable then i shouldn't resist the highwayman robbing me?

2018-06-03 00:13:19 UTC  

Hmmm

Why resist the inevitable

2018-06-03 00:13:33 UTC  

libertarianism in the US
I don't care about what happens to other countries

I mean you can say that up until other countries force you to interract

2018-06-03 00:14:16 UTC  

as long as it benefits us here

2018-06-03 00:14:22 UTC  

then I care a bit

So you would be hands off if people tried to destroy US interests abroad because it doesnt benefit you?

2018-06-03 00:15:36 UTC  

pretty sure that would affect me here

2018-06-03 00:15:38 UTC  

lmao

But it doesnt benefit you so why should you care about what happens in other countries

2018-06-03 00:17:05 UTC  

aight, replace "benefit" with "affect"

But what if they out gun america arent they the righteous ones then?

2018-06-03 00:18:04 UTC  

>might makes right

2018-06-03 00:18:32 UTC  

if they outgun america, there's literally no point in trying to argue righteousness

There is.

2018-06-03 00:19:00 UTC  

If someone beats you to death is it moral?