Message from @Advocatus Diaboli

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2018-06-19 21:28:03 UTC  

well, the drought played its role, but I think it wouldn't be that bad if most peasants were actually willing to work

2018-06-19 21:28:31 UTC  

you see, after 1917 all the land was turned into millions of small farms

2018-06-19 21:28:59 UTC  

obviously they couldn't produce as much grain as big farms did

2018-06-19 21:29:25 UTC  

But was it forseeable

2018-06-19 21:31:59 UTC  

I doubt that, it was caused by a ton of factors

2018-06-19 21:34:07 UTC  

Could you list the rest not mentioned?

2018-06-19 21:41:46 UTC  

obvious mismanagement, lack of livestock (people killed it to prevent kolkhozes from taking it), widespread infection of plants and stockpiles (workers weren't used to maintaining big stocks), rats and insects (same reason), too rapid industrialisation (too much workforce moved to the cities)

2018-06-19 21:50:53 UTC  

Interesting

2018-06-19 21:51:27 UTC  

How did the Soviet government react to all of this? Were any efforts or humanitarian given to those affected?

2018-06-19 22:01:57 UTC  

the USSR exported 750k tons of wheat in 1932, only 220k in 1933 and stopped exporting wheat in 1934.
in the first half of 1933 the Politburo had taken several decisions to help the starving regions, a total of 2.2m tons of grain sent there.
a special food bank was established to supply food to starving children, huge amount of food was donated by the Red Army command, etc. etc.

2018-06-19 22:12:37 UTC  

Interesting as well

2018-06-19 22:13:15 UTC  

though it does make me curious as to how if so many things were going on at once how the Soviet government didn't see the famine coming ahead of time

2018-06-19 22:19:11 UTC  

Yo, @S_5_fifstee whats up?

2018-06-19 22:19:54 UTC  

he went offline lol

2018-06-19 22:22:38 UTC  

He's not rolled as leader anymore and left the multi-party leader DM chat and left the Conservative-Fascist Embassy

2018-06-19 22:22:45 UTC  

He can at least explain why

2018-06-19 22:23:39 UTC  

seems like either impeachment or resigning

2018-06-19 22:30:44 UTC  

maybe we should ask @Papa Tarbear

2018-06-19 22:31:25 UTC  

He resigned and gave the conservative leader role to me

2018-06-19 22:31:35 UTC  

Nice

2018-06-19 22:31:40 UTC  

clear, thanks for the answer

2018-06-19 22:32:15 UTC  

@Marini well, here you are

2018-06-19 22:46:57 UTC  

Well then

2018-06-19 22:47:07 UTC  

You got the leasership you wanted @Papa Tarbear

2018-06-19 23:28:46 UTC  

@Marini I been way to unappreciated-ly busy with work, and also don’t really care for the new sim mechanics so I just decided to step down

2018-06-19 23:32:23 UTC  

oof

2018-06-19 23:32:49 UTC  

Oof

2018-06-19 23:56:40 UTC  

oof

2018-06-19 23:56:42 UTC  

Ok

2018-06-19 23:56:47 UTC  

oof

2018-06-20 02:14:25 UTC  

Oof

2018-06-20 02:14:30 UTC  

Oh wait

2018-06-20 02:14:32 UTC  

Nvm lol

2018-06-20 09:56:28 UTC  

@gribos Wait your anarchist?

2018-06-20 09:56:35 UTC  

I thought you would be fascist lol

2018-06-20 09:56:49 UTC  

anprim gang

2018-06-20 09:57:03 UTC  

May I join your party?

2018-06-20 09:57:09 UTC  

no

2018-06-20 09:57:16 UTC  

why?

2018-06-20 09:57:24 UTC  

anprim gang [2]

2018-06-20 09:59:31 UTC  

@Der rote Karl who are you btw