Message from @🌼Kalina🌹🌸🌹Zay🌹🌸🌹Scott🌼

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But in fact, the Germans were able to ward off the Soviet attacks during these incredibly low temperature days. On 6 December, in a record minus 38 degrees below zero, German 9th Army counter-attacked at Kalinin with heavy support from Panzergruppe 3 [Panzer Group 3, a tank army consisting of several corps] and pushed back Soviet 31st Army across River Volga again. In the process, Soviet 250th Rifle Division was completely routed and had to be withdrawn from combat.

Between 5 and 7 December, the German High Command reported that the Soviet attacks in general were warded off.  “We failed during the first days,” admitted Zhukov, the most acclaimed Soviet military commander of the Second World War.

2018-05-30 03:02:07 UTC  

the main issues with the germans was lack of oil

2018-05-30 03:02:17 UTC  

yeah, and overstretched supply lines

2018-05-30 03:02:30 UTC  

That and the straight up Isis level dedication of the Soviet soldiers

2018-05-30 03:02:32 UTC  

didn't help italy was dog shit at war

2018-05-30 03:02:52 UTC  

the red army does not get enough credit though, they were an effective fighting force

2018-05-30 03:02:57 UTC  

the Spaniards had some good soldiers actually

2018-05-30 03:02:58 UTC  

An issue was also the blitz, the Germans didn't target our factories, but instead targeted the runways.

2018-05-30 03:03:06 UTC  

I feel like the Axis would have been better off without he Italians

2018-05-30 03:03:09 UTC  

And thus when the initial planes were destroyed, more could be made.

2018-05-30 03:03:13 UTC  

i know a lot of people think spain joining the war would of killed spain

2018-05-30 03:03:20 UTC  

but i think it would of turned the tide of the war honestly

2018-05-30 03:03:43 UTC  

In general, overconfidence and lack of planning was what screwed over he Germans in he Soviet Union

2018-05-30 03:03:53 UTC  

the blue division was really good at fighting plus one of the allies supply line would of been cut off

Tbh stalin suggested a surprise war in 1938 to the allies and asked for permission through poland

Poland refused

And so did the allies

2018-05-30 03:05:05 UTC  

sauce?

2018-05-30 03:05:09 UTC  

Poland is god tier country honestly

What if tgey had gone through and caught Germany in that scenatio?

2018-05-30 03:05:23 UTC  

i dont think germany would of been prepared

2018-05-30 03:05:24 UTC  

at all

2018-05-30 03:06:10 UTC  

same if the allies attacked germany through france while germany was invading poland imo

2018-05-30 03:06:22 UTC  

I feel like the Polish army isn’t even that bad, it just had the unfortunate situation of fighting the Germans and the Soviet Union at the same time

2018-05-30 03:06:50 UTC  

the reason germany did so well is germany had tons of time to prepare

2018-05-30 03:06:54 UTC  

cause the allies refused to attack

2018-05-30 03:07:06 UTC  

it was able to mobilize

2018-05-30 03:07:16 UTC  

while the french and anglos where to scared to attack

2018-05-30 03:07:17 UTC  

basically

2018-05-30 03:07:18 UTC  

Poor Poland, it got blasted by both sides

2018-05-30 03:08:06 UTC  

epic

2018-05-30 03:08:43 UTC  

Poland in WWII was a Cumslut getting double penetrated

2018-05-30 03:08:49 UTC  

Change my mind

2018-05-30 03:08:52 UTC  

2 things poland had land that used to be germanys and (could be propaganda up to you to decide) poles where being violent to the germans there so Hitler got pissed

2018-05-30 03:09:22 UTC  

I think we all know who we feel about WW2, but what about WW1?

2018-05-30 03:10:05 UTC  

Serbia those faggotd

2018-05-30 03:10:07 UTC  

both sides where innocent and guilty at the same time

2018-05-30 03:10:12 UTC  

besides serbia

2018-05-30 03:10:24 UTC  

serbians are evil