@Moltres Once they're tired from all the mental gymnastics, or once their audience quickly discovers they're bullshitting, they'll quietly scuffle away, back into whatever hole in the wall they crawled out of.

Ill have you know I live in a hole in the floor

That is centrists in a nutshell.

@Moltres lol

Things ive been:
Ancapitalist
Libertarian
Democratic socialist
Right wing populist
Progressive
Centrist
And now im a marxist :dab:

Ancap

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Robert nozick handley explains why ancap cant work

So i was minarchist for a while too

@🌼Kalina🌹🌸🌹Zay🌹🌸🌹Scott🌼 Wow. That's an interesting.. progression. Not exactly linear, but interesting.

Oh my progression nahh here is it:

@Deleted User you might want to send him for 'reeducation' every few months so he doesn't change loyalties again

@Moltres lmao

Progressive -> Right wing populist -> Libertarian -> Ancap -> minarchism -> Ancom -> democratic socialist -> marxist

Wait, what kinda libertarian were you? You went from minarchist to ancap to minarchist?

Libertarian right wing

Im confuzzled

I read nozick state utopia and anarchism then realised ancap is dumb

Oh okay, so you were left-libertarian at one point?

Just a bit cuz holy fuck that book is boring

Ancommunist and left libertarian are synonmous for me

how does ancom even make any sense

I was a right wing populist for like 2016

Anarcho communism is using the workers revolution to directlybinstall a statless moneyless and classless society

Ah, yeah, in the classical sense it's definitely synonymous.

but "anarcho" implies that the state isn't present, or has minimal impact

Classless moneyless and **stateless**

If i were to be pedantic

I thought one of the main principals of communism that the state (workers) should control all property and the means of production

Ussr and china are not communist they are socialist or were socialist controlled by a communist party

And without a state this obviously can't happen

I should read capital again

it's been a while

Think of marxism like baking a cake

You need instructions

And the right ingredients

AnCom's don't believe the transitional stage of socioeconomic development succeeding capitalism and preceding Communism, i.e., Socialism, is necessary. They believe it is possible to go directly from the capitalist mode of production to full communism.

Maybe the baking tray is the state and dotp

But once thecake is done you can remove the tray

And now you have communism

The baking part is basically socialism