theres no "back"

@Mr.AnalTwister4000 mamma mia dios mio

Thesis: Traps are gay
Antithesis: Traps are not gay and kinda cute
Synthesis: Traps are gay, cute, but deserve to be killed off to put the debate to rest

Ok Adoring. You say nobody can produce goods without tools, right? But these tools were produced by labor + tools, and those tools were produced by labor + tools, and there's a point where tools were invented using pure labor. The conclusion is that everything is a product of labor.

industrialisation bad

anprims

@Advocatus Diaboli like i said, the source is different from the root

ooga

@Advocatus Diaboli ***Perfect***

And, no not everything, I also said intellectual property

You cannot make an iphone solely from labor

@moose clinton so that means you need to leave

No matter how far back you go

lol

leave the server right?

Ideas are products of labor too

idk

Labor isn't just physical

are any of you communists religious?

I'm atheist

My family is mormon

im atheist

Same^

never met a religious communist. as one tried to express yesterday that faith and communism is compatible but I've never met one of the combination

Id argue that physical and intellectual labor are wholly different things.
Especially considering Bill Gates's wealth is thus justified because his intellectual labor was a key factor in creating microsoft

what about inheritance n that

true

Because intellectual labor is far more scarce in innovations

Like he keeps doing anything but sitting on his ass and earns money for that

Not to mention the LTV forgets about marginal utlity

Bill Gates didnt have the only OS

Marginal utility is shit

@Advocatus Diaboli he invented the product

Or even the best OS

He sold the product

Hes successful because he got to the market first and the value is literally boosted from usage alonr

Doesn't mean he must earn money just for copyright

And not how good the OS actually is

Nothing shit about marginal utlity. You can make two goods with the same amount of work, one can take you to the moon and one can explode

But they have the same price smh

Do you know who elliot rodger is