Message from @boercharel

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2018-06-05 20:13:35 UTC  

it has never been done according to you

2018-06-05 20:13:42 UTC  

all the same, there is no way of knowing if it works

2018-06-05 20:13:45 UTC  

*as it's never been done*

2018-06-05 20:13:45 UTC  

Which state is still standing and successful?

2018-06-05 20:13:45 UTC  

The world trade NEEDS currency

2018-06-05 20:13:53 UTC  

"we would have won if we didnt lose"

2018-06-05 20:14:04 UTC  

So no money means no trading

2018-06-05 20:14:13 UTC  

Communism always seemed like closested totalitarianism

2018-06-05 20:14:22 UTC  

@ᵈˢʳ✪ you need money to buy shit, you need classes so you can get housing and a job according to your abilities and you need a state to support all of that.

2018-06-05 20:14:30 UTC  

yes gucci

2018-06-05 20:14:57 UTC  

I'm aware that the USSR went capitalist again, but this doesn't mean that socialism doesn't work. Some people just thought that since Stalin is bad, everything he created is bad too.

2018-06-05 20:14:59 UTC  

imagine an entertainment industry under communism lmao
GOVERNMENT VIDYA GAME PROGRAMS

2018-06-05 20:15:02 UTC  

Honestly believing the world would sing kumbaiah and touch tips across the globe is idiotic

2018-06-05 20:15:04 UTC  

communism would require a large and strong government to enforce the distribution of resources

2018-06-05 20:15:08 UTC  

Usually the reason why 'communist' societies have collapsed is because of hostility towards them

2018-06-05 20:15:08 UTC  

nobody is talking about socialism

2018-06-05 20:15:17 UTC  

we're still curious as to where communism's been achieved

2018-06-05 20:15:27 UTC  

From capitalist forces

2018-06-05 20:15:28 UTC  

Socialism is the lower stage of communism

2018-06-05 20:15:31 UTC  

thats quite a bold claim to make

2018-06-05 20:15:35 UTC  

or maybe it is the human nature

2018-06-05 20:15:41 UTC  

as your party members put it, socialism is an entirely different system

2018-06-05 20:15:43 UTC  

a precedent if you will

2018-06-05 20:15:44 UTC  

Why don't you establish communism on an oil rig or tanker ship

2018-06-05 20:15:57 UTC  

are you saying socialism is early communism?

2018-06-05 20:16:02 UTC  

Sail around the world as the first communist nation

2018-06-05 20:16:14 UTC  

because "capitalist encirclent" or something

2018-06-05 20:16:14 UTC  

we're talking about communism

2018-06-05 20:16:17 UTC  

>reddit

2018-06-05 20:16:21 UTC  

unless you're saying socialism is communism, this means nothing

2018-06-05 20:16:22 UTC  

@ᵈˢʳ✪ no my nigga. what makes commie societies collapse is the equal payment. because how can you expect people to be calm about, lets say a janitor being payed as same as a banker?

2018-06-05 20:16:44 UTC  

Who said that everyone is paid the same wage under a communist government?

2018-06-05 20:16:53 UTC  

Ofc that's false

2018-06-05 20:16:55 UTC  

aren't you commies all about equality?

2018-06-05 20:16:56 UTC  

how about having your workers' union start a company with pooled up money from all the workers
try management without structure

2018-06-05 20:17:00 UTC  

I'm m-l ideology, the two terms have different meanings, but Marx alone used the terms 'communism' and 'socialism' interchangeably

2018-06-05 20:17:03 UTC  

Communist GOVERNMENT

2018-06-05 20:17:10 UTC  

OXYMORON DETECTED

2018-06-05 20:17:17 UTC  

True

2018-06-05 20:17:25 UTC  

are you accepting that communism and socialism is one of the same then