Message from @Scipio

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2018-06-13 01:27:07 UTC  

Pray FOR them

2018-06-13 01:27:08 UTC  

not TO them

2018-06-13 01:27:20 UTC  

what is intercession...

2018-06-13 01:27:56 UTC  

the action of intervening on behalf of another.

2018-06-13 01:28:00 UTC  

that's the definition

2018-06-13 01:28:02 UTC  

yeah

2018-06-13 01:28:06 UTC  

so I could pray for my friend Billy Bob

2018-06-13 01:28:12 UTC  

And God would do it.

2018-06-13 01:28:16 UTC  

Maybe

2018-06-13 01:28:19 UTC  

Praying to a Saint makes no sense.

2018-06-13 01:28:27 UTC  

It's not like a friccin mail order miracle

2018-06-13 01:28:28 UTC  

scots should break away from the uk

2018-06-13 01:28:30 UTC  

tbh

2018-06-13 01:28:31 UTC  

And goes against the teaching of Jesus being the mediator.

2018-06-13 01:28:41 UTC  

The Scots refuse to do that, Mitch.

2018-06-13 01:28:42 UTC  

you are aware the early christians prayed to the saints for their intercession?

2018-06-13 01:29:02 UTC  

Heresy is Heresy

2018-06-13 01:29:04 UTC  

ignatius of antioch, a direct disciple of st. john coined the term catholic church

2018-06-13 01:29:18 UTC  

You are aware that the Catholic church, which is the original Christian church, sold indulgence?

2018-06-13 01:29:23 UTC  

Which is heresy.

2018-06-13 01:29:36 UTC  

Indulgence, to lower the time and punishment of sin.

2018-06-13 01:29:45 UTC  

On the ''muh indulgences'',
First, an indulgence means literally ''an specific good work appointed by the Church that will reduce punishment in the Purgatory'', not ''a payment that will erase your sin''. The old legend about indulgences being a kind of payment comes from two sources, first, the term ''treasury of merit'', which refers to how a single good work may benefit the Church and society as a whole (that was autistically misinterpreted by the prots), and second, how indulgences for some time were donations to help the construction of the Vatican Church.(edited)
From the Cathechism of the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church, indulgences are, but are not limited to:
>Piously reading or listening to Sacred Scripture for at least half an hour.
>Adoration of Jesus in the Eucharist for at least half an hour.
>The pious exercise of the Stations of the Cross.
>Recitation of the Rosary or the Akathist in a church or oratory, or in a family, a religious community, an association of the faithful and, in general, when several people come together for an honourable purpose.
>Receiving, even by radio or television, the blessing given by the Pope Urbi et Orbi (to the city of Rome and to the world) or that which a bishop is authorized to give three times a year to the faithful of his diocese.
>Taking part devoutly in the celebration of a day devoted on a world level to a particular religious purpose.
>Taking part for at least three full days in a spiritual retreat.
>Taking part in some functions during the Week of Prayer for Christian Unity.

2018-06-13 01:30:05 UTC  

Nice try;
''Selling indulgences'' was not Luther's criticism, rather the behaviour of those who gave them, usually because they were, on his eyes, corrupt for accepting material donations from nobility.

Literally, why do you think the german nobility rose in favour of Luther? To keep their hedonistic lifestyles by not giving monetary donations and still going to Heaven since they believed in Jesus.

2018-06-13 01:30:37 UTC  

If you believe in Jesus as God and follow his commandments you will go to heaven, biblically

2018-06-13 01:30:43 UTC  

Purgatory is unbiblical

2018-06-13 01:30:46 UTC  

Purgatory is heresy

2018-06-13 01:30:47 UTC  

no it's not

2018-06-13 01:30:53 UTC  

it's the the deutercanon

2018-06-13 01:31:14 UTC  

Do you support the current Pope?

2018-06-13 01:31:14 UTC  

which was accepted at the council which compiled the bible under influence of the holy spirit

2018-06-13 01:31:20 UTC  

Want to know.

2018-06-13 01:31:23 UTC  

he is the successor of st. peter, so yes

2018-06-13 01:31:30 UTC  

You're a heretic.

2018-06-13 01:31:36 UTC  

why?

2018-06-13 01:31:44 UTC  

If you've seen what he has said.

2018-06-13 01:31:50 UTC  

He said that Atheists can go to heaven.

2018-06-13 01:31:54 UTC  

inb4 pulls up those dumb articles from offhand sources

2018-06-13 01:31:57 UTC  

And that God made gays.

2018-06-13 01:31:58 UTC  

._.

2018-06-13 01:31:59 UTC  

Books that were NOT in the Hebrew Bible

2018-06-13 01:32:12 UTC  

a bunch of heretics got together and decided "Hey this looks like it's divinely inspired"