Message from @[Lex]

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2018-10-10 22:11:03 UTC  

if Trump is in a good spot I think Gardner can pull it off

2018-10-10 22:11:06 UTC  

unless Trump does extraordinarily well, I don't see us getting it again

2018-10-10 22:11:12 UTC  

the Democrats know that it'll be vulnerable though

2018-10-10 22:11:15 UTC  

not out of the realm of possibility

2018-10-10 22:11:21 UTC  

well, Trump never bothered targeting Colorado in 2016 I think

2018-10-10 22:11:27 UTC  

Alabama is also coming up, Doug Jones is getting shlonged

2018-10-10 22:11:43 UTC  

what's even less safe than Colorado for the GOP is Doug Jones' seat in AL for the Democrats

2018-10-10 22:11:46 UTC  

yep

2018-10-10 22:11:56 UTC  

hopefully we can pick up better steam in Michigan and New Hampshire for the Senate

2018-10-10 22:12:05 UTC  

Colorado folks really aren't very fond of Mr. Trump. from what I've heard from locals.

2018-10-10 22:12:16 UTC  

ok, so the battleground races are

Colorado, Alabama, Michigan, New Hampshire, Maine, maybe Virginia

2018-10-10 22:12:19 UTC  

yeah, include Virginia

2018-10-10 22:12:20 UTC  

They seem to be quite character-sensitive voters.

2018-10-10 22:12:25 UTC  

really?

2018-10-10 22:12:28 UTC  

well, lots of stoners there

2018-10-10 22:12:37 UTC  

I mean, maybe lots of the Libertarian 2016 voters might come to Trump in 2020

2018-10-10 22:12:52 UTC  

Colorado is a lost cause in my opinion due to marijuana migration and Hispanic demographic change.

2018-10-10 22:12:58 UTC  

As well as urbanisation in the state.

2018-10-10 22:13:28 UTC  

ok, so the best case scenario in 2020 for us IMO is

We keep Colorado and Maine
we take Alabama, Virginia, New Hampshire, and Michigan

2018-10-10 22:13:30 UTC  

But definitely worth targeting for the gubernatorial/house races in future elections.

2018-10-10 22:13:51 UTC  

Alabama should be a relatively easy take from Mr. Jones.

2018-10-10 22:13:53 UTC  

Trump only lost Colorado by 5 though, but it didn't shift much at all from 2012

2018-10-10 22:14:37 UTC  

Perhaps it can be won then but Trump will have to clean up.

2018-10-10 22:14:38 UTC  

so if we manage to get up to 56 Senate seats this year, optimistically speaking

and if 2020 also works out really well, that's another shot at getting up to 60 Senate seats

2018-10-10 22:14:49 UTC  

I believe Trump has improved his image since 2016 so he likely has a better chance.

2018-10-10 22:14:53 UTC  

suburban voters might come home to Trump in 2020

2018-10-10 22:15:00 UTC  

so Colorado can be winnable

2018-10-10 22:15:05 UTC  

hispanics and stoners though are another thing

2018-10-10 22:15:22 UTC  

maybe the stoners can just stick with the lolbertarian instead of voting for the D

2018-10-10 22:15:41 UTC  

If he wins more of the suburban female (suburban males significantly voted for Donald) he should win it.

2018-10-10 22:15:52 UTC  

So he'll have to pivot hard for that vote.

2018-10-10 22:16:54 UTC  

He'd have to go hard on the law and order message

2018-10-10 22:17:28 UTC  

Or have an opponent who's too radical for the national stage

2018-10-10 22:42:56 UTC  

Ted currently up by 10 over Beta

2018-10-10 22:42:57 UTC  

great news

2018-10-10 22:43:07 UTC  

Et tu, Beta?

2018-10-11 01:38:03 UTC  

I was looking at the 2020 map recently, funny that you bring it up. I think Alabama is an instant-win. Colorado and Maine are the most vulnerable. Iowa and North Carolina are competitive, but have a republican advantage. Potential pickups in New Hampshire, Michigan, and Virginia. The presidential election alone should prevent any double digit deficits like the ones that /our candidates/ are running now. Any pickups beyond AL are pretty difficult, assuming we don't get well-known well-funded candidates. Warner is well known, and the NH Senator survived Scott Brown in 2014. If I recall correctly, that was the only swing state dems won. The good news about this map is that if we win around 54 seats then it'll be next to impossible for the dems to take the senate that year, and republicans will also be reclaiming a lot of 2018 house losses. The first half of Trump's second term will be very active!

2018-10-11 01:38:27 UTC  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H2_MsWTI7s

Bredesen vs Blackburn debate

2018-10-11 01:39:00 UTC  

@Amsel yeah, Democrats will be gunning for Colorado, Maine, Iowa, and North Carolina

2018-10-11 01:39:18 UTC  

if Trump is in a really bad position, they have a good shot at all of them