NK is one of those rare times where that's the case.

I just think it's the same old "say there's WMD, justify huge military presence, implement a new regime, make it ZOGged"

What the fuck are you talking about

The thing we've been doing for a while now, I think they call it global policing

Un has been pretty fucking clear that he has nuclear weapons and openly threats the American defense with it.

Trusting the ((UN))

I'm not justifying Iraq or Libya or a future Iran or Syria intervention, but NK is the rare case where they are actually a threat to American citizens.

I don't believe that we're actually in danger

He shouldn't be threatening the fucking united states then

That's the first rule of 'how to avoid getting invaded by a larger country'

He's just an angry little impotent dictator, let him make his threats IMO

He has nukes, ffs, there are millions of lives on the line

All he could do is kill civilians he can't win a war against any country

Yeah, we want to try avoiding that altogether though

Then we shouldn't have sold him nuclear tech

That was fucking Clinton

Clinton was selling the US out to everyone, he did a lot of stuff he shouldn't have.

Like Bombing Yugoslavia

But at this point it's like either he commits an act of terrorism and his whole nation and people get destroyed or he keeps the nukes as defense against being forced to accept ZOG(which I do approve of)

The best thing to do to close the global policing chapter of the US is to just peacefully sort out the NK situation, okay?

This is the only time I think you can reasonably justify the US getting involved, this is a threat to the defense

I don't agree with disarming his nation

If a guy pointed a gun at you and said "I'm going to kill you", would you say that convincing him to put it down is a better alternative to keeping it raised?

If we intervene, China will intervene also, it's not like Libya.

I think he should still be allowed to have a CCW

I would strongly recommend he doesn't point it at me lest he wants his head blown off

China has said it will come to the defense of NK if the US attacked it unprovoked, that's good enough for me.

And if there's no confrontation or forced disarmament I'm fine

Politics is a dirty Buisiness

Yeah

Anyways, China is a good enough deterrent against US intervention instead of nukes, I'm okay with them voluntarily disarming.

That's just what they have to do if they want to have the US at peace, and to prevent a backstab afterward, China backs them up.

Do you think there's a situation where we make peace and NK keeps it's nukes?

Not with the current heads

not really

This is how it works, if they keep nukes, they get a few months of "peace" then it comes out in the news they've devoloped a new hydrogen bomb, etc.

We need to show them we're not taking their distractions anymore, just like the japs in WWII, what these guys understand is hardball.

I have HOI4

And suck at it

Haven't really played the hearts of iron games

My brother plays that game, he knows a lot about history