Message from @thr33

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2018-09-08 22:56:49 UTC  

Ron Paul is one of the only good libertarians

2018-09-08 22:56:59 UTC  

Good book from what I've read

2018-09-08 22:57:11 UTC  

my main issue with most libertarians is they're pro-open borders

2018-09-08 22:57:21 UTC  

rand is actually surprisingly good on the issue

2018-09-08 22:57:30 UTC  

I have a very long list of grievances with libertarianism

2018-09-08 22:58:12 UTC  

Rand is not sufficient on the borders or immigration issue unfortunately.

2018-09-08 22:58:20 UTC  

Libertarians are usually either one of two categories, with some overlap

2018-09-08 22:59:03 UTC  

@[Lex] he's not perfect, but do you think he'd vote against any immigration bill? i don't think he would

2018-09-08 22:59:09 UTC  

1) Impressionable young people that like freedom
2) Full blown autistic psychopaths that think the free market is God

2018-09-08 22:59:18 UTC  

It depends on which immigration bill

2018-09-08 22:59:27 UTC  

My end goal is to stop immigration entirely

2018-09-08 22:59:46 UTC  

i would be in favor of that

2018-09-08 22:59:57 UTC  

i don't know how much support it would get though

2018-09-08 23:00:11 UTC  

how do you think we can tackle birthright citizenship?

2018-09-08 23:00:18 UTC  

It's a good thing to advocate for and for many reasons liberals would like

2018-09-08 23:00:49 UTC  

That's a tough one considering that damned 14th amendment but I think @Nuke's talked about how we could tackle it

2018-09-08 23:01:14 UTC  

My main argument is that being born in the US doesn't make you an American any more than being born in an aquarium makes you a fish

2018-09-08 23:01:20 UTC  

you know though

2018-09-08 23:01:27 UTC  

i think the supreme court would handle it

2018-09-08 23:01:30 UTC  

Lots of areas in the US that are just a borg where you don't even have to learn English

2018-09-08 23:01:32 UTC  

we need a huge majority though

2018-09-08 23:01:41 UTC  

Birthright citizenship?

2018-09-08 23:01:42 UTC  

like we'd need to replace breyer and rbg with conservatives

2018-09-08 23:01:43 UTC  

yea

2018-09-08 23:01:48 UTC  

i could see a case coming up

2018-09-08 23:02:04 UTC  

🆙 | **thr33 leveled up!**

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2018-09-08 23:02:22 UTC  

That will be very tough to try but if we can get a 7-2 majority, who knows, maybe we will be able to manage that

2018-09-08 23:02:42 UTC  

The constitutional ground on our side is dubious unfortunately, I could see that as a possibility though

2018-09-08 23:03:33 UTC  

Also don't forget that Sotomayor has Type 1 Diabetes which'll shave about 20 years off of her life

2018-09-08 23:03:36 UTC  

true

2018-09-08 23:03:48 UTC  

i think thomas wants to retire early too

2018-09-08 23:04:07 UTC  

he's really good, shame, but maybe that would be where we could get someone like amy barrett in

2018-09-08 23:04:15 UTC  

ok, so on on the cornyn-grassley bill

2018-09-08 23:04:22 UTC  

it was defeated 39-60 right

2018-09-08 23:04:42 UTC  

so 10 R's voted against it, because it wasn't going to pass anyway, and because it gave up too much (they would flip if it could pass)

2018-09-08 23:04:54 UTC  

Barrasso, Cruz, Daines, Enzi, Inhofe, Kennedy, Lee, Moran, Paul, Thune

2018-09-08 23:05:00 UTC  

so that gets us to 49

2018-09-08 23:05:04 UTC  

I would replace Ginsburg with Barrett probably

2018-09-08 23:05:34 UTC  

3 D's voted for it, which probably are NOs if it's after midterms (Manchin, Donnelly, Heitkamp)

2018-09-08 23:05:48 UTC  

Just for laughs, we replaced Marshall, a black liberal with Thomas, who's a very conservative black man

2018-09-08 23:05:56 UTC  

I think it'd be fitting