Message from @FLanon

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2018-09-08 23:02:22 UTC  

That will be very tough to try but if we can get a 7-2 majority, who knows, maybe we will be able to manage that

2018-09-08 23:02:42 UTC  

The constitutional ground on our side is dubious unfortunately, I could see that as a possibility though

2018-09-08 23:03:33 UTC  

Also don't forget that Sotomayor has Type 1 Diabetes which'll shave about 20 years off of her life

2018-09-08 23:03:36 UTC  

true

2018-09-08 23:03:48 UTC  

i think thomas wants to retire early too

2018-09-08 23:04:07 UTC  

he's really good, shame, but maybe that would be where we could get someone like amy barrett in

2018-09-08 23:04:15 UTC  

ok, so on on the cornyn-grassley bill

2018-09-08 23:04:22 UTC  

it was defeated 39-60 right

2018-09-08 23:04:42 UTC  

so 10 R's voted against it, because it wasn't going to pass anyway, and because it gave up too much (they would flip if it could pass)

2018-09-08 23:04:54 UTC  

Barrasso, Cruz, Daines, Enzi, Inhofe, Kennedy, Lee, Moran, Paul, Thune

2018-09-08 23:05:00 UTC  

so that gets us to 49

2018-09-08 23:05:04 UTC  

I would replace Ginsburg with Barrett probably

2018-09-08 23:05:34 UTC  

3 D's voted for it, which probably are NOs if it's after midterms (Manchin, Donnelly, Heitkamp)

2018-09-08 23:05:48 UTC  

Just for laughs, we replaced Marshall, a black liberal with Thomas, who's a very conservative black man

2018-09-08 23:05:56 UTC  

I think it'd be fitting

2018-09-08 23:05:58 UTC  

then you have Collins, Murkowski, Flake, Sasse who were NOs, and McCain who wasn't there

2018-09-08 23:06:06 UTC  

@FLanon that would be funny

2018-09-08 23:06:17 UTC  

so McCain was replaced with Kyl who is a yes

2018-09-08 23:06:42 UTC  

i think the dems would fillibuster the bill though

2018-09-08 23:06:57 UTC  

Yeah, probably

2018-09-08 23:07:03 UTC  

Inevitably

2018-09-08 23:07:39 UTC  

Predictit has RBG most likely to retire

2018-09-08 23:07:41 UTC  

so it realistically has to be done in a spending bill

2018-09-08 23:08:22 UTC  

Spending bills are going to be tough to pull off if you've already used a once a year appropriations rule

2018-09-08 23:08:33 UTC  

It'd be a shame if she spontaneously combusted.

2018-09-08 23:08:52 UTC  

I imagine if it's not used for the next one, McConnell would probably use it on tax cuts 2.0 or something stupid like that

2018-09-08 23:10:07 UTC  

tax cuts 2.0 you probably don't need to use reconciliation

2018-09-08 23:10:24 UTC  

because 2.0 is going to be making the individual cuts permanent

2018-09-08 23:10:32 UTC  

any dem voting against that in a red state is fatal

2018-09-08 23:11:05 UTC  

even obama with a dem senate extended the bush cuts, remember

2018-09-08 23:22:27 UTC  

The Congress just has to amend the law to end birthright citizenship.

2018-09-08 23:22:46 UTC  

do you need 2/3 for that? would be really tough

2018-09-08 23:22:54 UTC  

It can be restricted, but under current law it's defined as anyone born in the US, plus four other categories.

2018-09-08 23:23:01 UTC  

You need 60% of the Senate.

2018-09-08 23:23:34 UTC  

isn't it amending the constitution so it needs 2/3?

2018-09-08 23:24:22 UTC  

actually

2018-09-08 23:24:24 UTC  

maybe i'm wrong

2018-09-08 23:24:36 UTC  

No.

2018-09-08 23:25:10 UTC  

looks like it was settled through the supreme court in 1898 re:their interpretation of the 14th amendment. so it could be overturned maybe?

2018-09-08 23:25:28 UTC  

The Supreme Court ruled that it's unconstitutional to deny birthright citizenship on the basis of race, but it hasn't ruled out restricting it for foreigners, and it's actually affirmed stripping native tribes of citizenship, so long as they are neither deported nor obliged to pay taxes.

2018-09-08 23:25:41 UTC  

ah