"Apparently Democrats are generally getting worse turnout in pre-2018 special elections than we were getting in pre-2010 special elections."

really? sauce?

He'll be out for Dem blood

He's gonna be nuclear in the courts!

I'm just looking at pages for comparison.

e.g.

Pre-2010 we won in Hawaii and New York City.

We'll never reach that level of greatness.

@Pielover19 we took Anthony Weiner's seat after he resigned, but that was in 2011. I remember because that was my district

Not until the next Democratic president.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_special_election_in_Massachusetts,_2010 vs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_special_election_in_Alabama,_2017

and I remember sending an angry email to the Republican who replaced him about SOPA

I know, just got the time wrong.

Scott Brown got more votes than John McCain, while Doug Jones underperformed Hillary Clinton and won solely due to lack of Democratic turnout.

The thing is, Moore had a huge scandal.

Brown was just the better candidate.

Yep.

This isn't going to be a huge wave. Not gonna be on 2006, 2008, 2010, or 2014 levels at all.

We don't see Democrats winning in Oklahoma or anything certainly.

"Doug Jones underperformed Hillary Clinton and won solely due to lack of Democratic turnout."

you mean due to lack of Republican turnout

@Pielover19 I think it's going to be a Purple Year

the only way it could be a Red Storm is if you get GOP turnout high while making Democratic turnout low...but I don't think there's any realistic way of making Democratic turnout low. They have a #votebluenomatterwho (actual popular hashtag) mentality. They're going out to the polls whether they like the candidate or not because they feel threatened on an existential level.

I suppose this would depend on independents

Yes.

accidentally said the wrong party name

one thing about independents - many aren't actually "centrists" but ideological partisan voters who don't consider themselves Republican (possibly because they feel more aligned with conservative ideology than a corruptible political party)

of course, some are ideological partisan left-leaning voters as well

and....a great many are low information voters

one thing to realize is that Hillary didn't win the majority of registered voters in any of the blue states, just the majority of the people who showed up

hypothetically if you were to get those masses of low-info registered voters who don't show up out to the polls to vote GOP, Trump would have won states like New York

of course, that's definitely not going to be easy

I remember when I registered as an independent, I was thinking that I was too right-wing for the party.

I'll probably register as a Republican sometime though.

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So I heard Lindsey Graham, MY Governor, My Man, did well?

I saw some shit flinging going down on the books of faces and decided to drop a bit of a red pill

https://twitter.com/wiredsources/status/1045675478856749056

today?

what an amazing past 24 hours

Looks like Flake is voting yes for Kavanaugh