Message from @Toothcake

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2018-10-05 17:48:02 UTC  

i asked for things outside the bible

2018-10-05 17:48:27 UTC  

Mitty, my point there is nothing from around the time that supports the bibl

2018-10-05 17:48:28 UTC  

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2018-10-05 17:48:52 UTC  

outside of the bible is lies, and unverified truths, why would u seek truth outside of the bible?

2018-10-05 17:50:00 UTC  

because if multiple sources go against the bible , why would i trust the one source that is different

2018-10-05 17:50:15 UTC  

you havent showed that it is 100% the truth

2018-10-05 17:50:35 UTC  

the prophecies fulfilled are evidence enough

2018-10-05 17:50:47 UTC  

I think he is looking into texts or information to prove the Bible to be true or false. If he is coming from the perspective of not believing the Bible to be true

2018-10-05 17:51:16 UTC  

Not even Clergy are Biblical inerrantsists

2018-10-05 17:51:40 UTC  

Nobody believes the Bible to be literally true. No one thinks Revelations is literal

2018-10-05 17:51:59 UTC  

i believe the bible to be literally true though, am i a nobody?

2018-10-05 17:52:15 UTC  

You're certainly not in the majority of Christian theology

2018-10-05 17:52:36 UTC  

i could agree hesitantly with that

2018-10-05 17:52:57 UTC  

@Christmas EveryDay I think he is looking for more historical

2018-10-05 17:53:47 UTC  

I believe GODs Word to be the final authority as well as absolute Truth!

2018-10-05 17:53:55 UTC  

Ye what I mean to say is that there are many different ways to interperet any text; there are multiple ways to define truth

2018-10-05 17:54:43 UTC  

Even incredibly important scholars in the Christian tradition to debate what "truth" is.

2018-10-05 17:54:50 UTC  

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2018-10-05 17:55:12 UTC  

the bible says Jesus is the truth. Thats what i beliieve

2018-10-05 17:55:20 UTC  

Yeah but what is truth?

2018-10-05 17:55:41 UTC  

You can't really explain what it means for something to be true

2018-10-05 17:56:38 UTC  

=]

2018-10-05 17:56:50 UTC  

im just trying to play nice

2018-10-05 17:57:35 UTC  

I found that whatever "ist" glasses you look through will be the way one interprets scripture and hence the reason behind so many false belief systems.

2018-10-05 17:57:47 UTC  

Yeah, but a conversation on whether or not something is true is useless if two people cannot agree on what it means to be true. So you and DrPeper will have to E P I S T E M O L O G Y

2018-10-05 17:58:03 UTC  

Ovtherwise it'll be hopelessly circular

2018-10-05 18:00:11 UTC  

GOD resists the proud and gives Grace to the humble. If one comes to the scriptures arrogantly then they will see through a legalistic lens. If one comes humbly then GOD Graciously gives the ability to see Truth. The Word of GOD is alive!

2018-10-05 18:00:24 UTC  

It's how you analyze historic documents

2018-10-05 18:00:42 UTC  

You look for things that support it

2018-10-05 18:00:58 UTC  

With all due respect you're both spouting some shite

2018-10-05 18:01:47 UTC  

Looking for historical arguments for theology is futile to say the least

2018-10-05 18:01:55 UTC  

Try to rely on the anointing of the holy spirit to teach us

2018-10-05 18:02:27 UTC  

Ey mate I'm not saying anything about Christianity. I'm just saying these claims border upon the nonsensical

2018-10-05 18:03:02 UTC  

well if the world was able to understand, then the world would understand. right?

2018-10-05 18:03:09 UTC  

Yes

2018-10-05 18:03:35 UTC  

some things are spiritual, and cannot be understood physically.

2018-10-05 18:04:06 UTC  

Sure, but you don't need to rely on the Spirit to explain Christian theology

2018-10-05 18:04:41 UTC  

You can - you just don't have to; and something tells me, DrPeper ain't gonna accept the spiritual.

2018-10-05 18:04:42 UTC  

the bible says dont rely on your own understanding, theres that to consider.

2018-10-05 18:04:47 UTC  

The trinity is very important to Christianity

2018-10-05 18:04:54 UTC  

To rely on God's