death rates from infectious disease declined before the introduction of vaccines. This primarily has to do with hygiene, clean water and proper nutrition

although infectious disease has declined, chronic disease is still on the rise

now this comes to a question of inevitability, where you get a choice between the two

would you rather?
Get an infectious disease or live with a chronic disease?

https://www.strawpoll.me/17922400

Is this really a choice

I choose option C
Die

there are a lot of ways to die

it's simple

generally, I'd still prefer infectious disease. Depending on which of course

Vaccines are good

@Lancelot well if you choose infectious disease that would mean everyone around you including yourself would suffer. So you'd probably get shot before you have the chance to run around

<@572799652219453460> Naw they give you Autism. I'd rather my kids and I die from measels than to somehow contract a genetic disease from nothing.

Because I'm "logical" and I do my "research"

He's joking, ye

<@572799652219453460> vaccine insert says it does cause autism and Sids . they are listed as a adverse effect that can happen from the vaccine

<@572799652219453460> what school?

@Citizen Z 👋

sup bro

Sup

Not much

just stopping by to check on the chat and saw they dont believe vaccines cause autism , so i had to set the record straight lol

They think big pharma is trying to help them

https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-05-01-measles-vaccines-kill-more-children-than-the-measles.html

more bad news for them

They think the pharmaceutical companies make profit by helping

they should know if they curve you , you are no longer their customer and cant make more money off you so it would defeat their purpose of being in business

they dont want to cure you just mask the symptoms and treat the symptoms not the root cause of the problem

https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-05-01-hpv-vaccine-leaves-another-teenager-chained-to-a-wheelchair-for-life.html

Though just the name HPV strikes fear into the hearts of many, for the most part, it is totally harmless.

http://humansarefree.com/2019/05/us-vax-court-sees-400-spike-in-vaccine.html

I don't think anyone claimed that pharmaceutical companies are actually helping anyone

I certainly didn't

They'd be working on cures and genetic immunity, not symptom treatment and temporary immunity

It's all profit, sure. But when there are hundreds of millions of living examples of proof to the validity of vaccines, they at least do their job

I wonder if Anti Vaxx's think about how doctors get their vaccines. If they secretly knew they were poison why would they take them? Hmm maybe this is to logical to think about. Guess I go 70mph in an elementary School zone and hope nobody dies. Because taking risks like that is perfectly logical and if you disagree then obviously you havent done your research.

Careful, last I heard from an admin they prefer the term "immunohoaxers." unsure if that's just them or that's enforced

But I would assume they would think doctor fake their vaccination records

doctors buy them

or get batches from governmental organizations who bought them

<@572799652219453460> that pathogen is either weakened or dead. Or they use a weaker variant or any toxoids. Other ingredients used are adjuvants, preservatives and other substances

some of the substances are of concern, especially for those who are sensitive to them. Take for instance polysorbate 80 or tween 80