Message from @Citizen Z
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I don't think anyone claimed that pharmaceutical companies are actually helping anyone
I certainly didn't
They'd be working on cures and genetic immunity, not symptom treatment and temporary immunity
It's all profit, sure. But when there are hundreds of millions of living examples of proof to the validity of vaccines, they at least do their job
I wonder if Anti Vaxx's think about how doctors get their vaccines. If they secretly knew they were poison why would they take them? Hmm maybe this is to logical to think about. Guess I go 70mph in an elementary School zone and hope nobody dies. Because taking risks like that is perfectly logical and if you disagree then obviously you havent done your research.
Careful, last I heard from an admin they prefer the term "immunohoaxers." unsure if that's just them or that's enforced
But I would assume they would think doctor fake their vaccination records
doctors buy them
or get batches from governmental organizations who bought them
<@572799652219453460> that pathogen is either weakened or dead. Or they use a weaker variant or any toxoids. Other ingredients used are adjuvants, preservatives and other substances
some of the substances are of concern, especially for those who are sensitive to them. Take for instance polysorbate 80 or tween 80
and speaking about vaccine injuries, whether it's a small percentage or a large one doesn't matter. The cases matter and should be confronted and prevented, not rationalized nor neglected as doctors often do
@Citizen Z not only does that text box not have who said it, but it also has crap Grammer. Im not taking that seriously.
@Pinnaplia what's wrong with the grammar?
Also, why do you not take that seriously?
More people die from a cold than measles
Fallacy.
You cant possibly know what every doctor thinks or does.
Willful ignorance.
Says the flat earther
Also saying that is cute because you didn't give me an option to learn earlier
vax your children now ligma is spreading
I didnt give you an option to learn? What does that even mean?
Says the globe earther
The globe earther that thinks the CDC has bad grammar and doesn't take the CDC seriously.
😂
80,000 people died from the flu in 2017 2018 winter in the US
How many died of measels?
The Public Health Reports study also found that families of unvaccinated kids are more likely to be:
• Wealthier on average, with annual incomes more than four times the poverty level
• Non-Hispanic white
• Married couples in English-speaking households
• Educated, with college degrees, and
• Covered by private health insurance.
Only about 70% of children are vaccinated with 7 series
Interesting info there
safety remains the main priority, over the fact that still no long term studies have been done. These studies need the following criteria for proper safety testing: latency for at least 10 years, the presence of an inert placebo group (saline as placebo, not aluminum) and the reproducibility by all parties including third parties.
Furthermore, there's much appeal to authority from the proponents, who keep pointing at certain studies, that only study one vaccine out of many. Epidemiologically it's a meaningless study due to it's healthy user bias. The other side has just a growing pile of studies, that point to mechanisms. They connect them to show how aluminum salts that don't dissolve in water, when administered via intramuscular injection (which happens at nearly all vaccinations), can cause autism. The most recent study came from 5 years ago, pointing that there may be a causal link between aluminum administered via vaccines and autism. The reason that their conclusion say that it may be so, is due to the absence of an inert placebo control group. In other words, if such a study is performed again, but with the presence of a placebo control group (double blind), it will either show the causal link or debunk that link. Mechanism on the other hand is already known. How do macrophages respond to aluminum particles that don't dissolve in water?
autism has a life expectancy of 36 years
whether you like it or not, it's in general about a neurodevelopmental disorder, in this, developmental delays fall under it's definition
whether it's the inflammation of the brain or an oxygen deficiency, it can manifest as such
vaccines dont cause autism
have you read this? https://archive.fo/Xy55r