Message from @Citizen Z
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See the building you are closer to becomes less reasolvable than the building further away
Satan never could understand optics
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I'm gonna have to continue this in a bit I gotta get back to work
In the meantime what's the distance that is required for a ship to fully disappear relative to its height
5 ft at about 15000 feet
Which means you lose objects at 5ft tall at about 3 miles
K cya
Why do we never use binoculars or telescopes to spot the object when it gets away
You can go try it
Z what would you say the distance is when we see no further
Like at what distance the object disappears and our eyes reach vanishing point
5 foot tall object will be mostly gone with human eye at around 3 mile
Okay
And it doesn't need to obstructed by anything? Our vision just reaches it limit?
Our vision has a limit yes
Globe model says its earth obstructing
Ok
Cameras work the same as our eyes
They have limits also
The further an object (i.e. boat, building mountain) gets away from the lens, the angular separation will continue to close until the light blurs together and eventually becomes a line or point or edge"
Eventually the points of light all merge and appear as just a line on the horizon
I'm back
One more clarification hun
Yes?
By 0.02 degrees you mean the difference in angle between the top of the object and the surface of the sea, right?
I mean the angle at which the photons are traveling to the eye
So you look at your feet then look to horizon ehatever you dont see is because of that angle of light
Yeah but the eye can't differentiate between photons that hit at an angle that is has less than 0.02 degrees of difference?
That's why things merge together?
No if its at .02 degrees then the eye has lost it
What
Little rods and cones in the back of the eye
Cant see anything at the resolution
I'm not following
This is how angular resolution works physically in the eye.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379214321907007488/459802853524111361/1_EN.png
Cameras work the same way.
The cones of the retina is a zoom in of the eye. If the angular size of the target is not enough to activate more than a single cones/sensor the object is unresolvable.
There are 3 ways to decrease angular separation.
1. Move the two separate targets further or closer together.
2.Increase the distance.
3. Change the angle of view.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379214321907007488/459805458644074511/angseperation.jpg
First here is a demonstration of how angle of view changes the angular separation of 2 targets. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379214321907007488/459806914331541504/unknown.png
For example in this image, as the stop sign's angular size shrinks from distance or angle, the image that prjected onto the retina also shrinks. Eventually it will reach such as small size the eye can not physically detect the light. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379214321907007488/459808085436006410/refraction_cornea.png
A geometric analogy would be closing a pair of scissors. When the scissor tips are closer together than the spacing between the rods and cones of the eye then you get to see the target. The point where the tips cross from too close to normal vision is the angular resolution.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379214321907007488/459817803038326784/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379214321907007488/459818062858682368/65116694_resized550bbc_sg_g4_eye.png
When the angle of view becomes to much it pretty much goes parallel, but you lose sight of the ground before that. It's the same on the globe too but even worse because the angle of view is increasing quicker because of the curving away of the ball surface.
These next images show someone how the angle stays the same but the area that you are actually observing increases. You can see the 5th image how the bottom of a building would disappear.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379214321907007488/459819761644077057/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379214321907007488/459813762132869126/ang1.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379214321907007488/459813783464968206/ang2.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379214321907007488/459813767576813578/ang4.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379214321907007488/459813769548267542/ang5.png