Message from @Alexandre

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2019-04-24 15:00:27 UTC  

It is merely ad hoc, nobody can explain it as a refraction effect if they don't have the values to determine what we would expect to see

2019-04-24 15:00:43 UTC  

This applies to the globe too

2019-04-24 15:01:06 UTC  

this reg said that the sun is small and very low to the earth

2019-04-24 15:01:16 UTC  

so it seems like there is a sunset?

2019-04-24 15:01:18 UTC  

what

2019-04-24 15:01:20 UTC  

so because we cant measure it we dont factor it in

2019-04-24 15:02:01 UTC  

Yes, because you can't factor something in until has been measurably quantified.

2019-04-24 15:02:20 UTC  

also if it is small and low howcome we cant see the sun

2019-04-24 15:02:25 UTC  

sounds like good science

2019-04-24 15:02:38 UTC  

when its night for us

2019-04-24 15:02:38 UTC  

lol

2019-04-24 15:03:19 UTC  

I tend to avoid sky related phenomena when talking about the shape of the earth, like the sun, they are two different things

2019-04-24 15:03:51 UTC  

But as a matter of curiosity, how could a sunset work on a flat earth?

2019-04-24 15:04:04 UTC  

the sun is becuase of perspective and becuase the globe model has people thinking u can see forever

2019-04-24 15:04:04 UTC  

yeah but the things we see now about the sun can work on a flat earth

2019-04-24 15:04:08 UTC  

Other than the sun going under the earth

2019-04-24 15:04:15 UTC  

let me find the sunset video

2019-04-24 15:04:24 UTC  

no doesnt wor like that hang on

2019-04-24 15:04:54 UTC  

would u agree that when u look out into the distance u are looking through atmosphere which has water in it and water magnifies things ?

2019-04-24 15:05:23 UTC  

i think we can all agree on that no ?

2019-04-24 15:05:25 UTC  

no

2019-04-24 15:05:50 UTC  

we are looking through atmosphere ?

2019-04-24 15:06:01 UTC  

which part do u disagree with on that

2019-04-24 15:06:16 UTC  

what do u mean by magnify things

2019-04-24 15:06:32 UTC  

water magnifyiong things is the only part u disagree with ?

2019-04-24 15:06:42 UTC  

i just want to understand

2019-04-24 15:06:54 UTC  

have u ever seen a fire started with water

2019-04-24 15:07:07 UTC  

I would need evidence that the atmosphere magnifies the celestial objects in any way and by how much

2019-04-24 15:07:30 UTC  

also how is that a factor to sunsets

2019-04-24 15:07:38 UTC  

it factors in

2019-04-24 15:07:50 UTC  

Probably that Rob Skiba video

2019-04-24 15:07:57 UTC  

i would show u how it works but u dont think water magnifys things or waters int he atmosphere idk

2019-04-24 15:08:03 UTC  

ok you seen it

2019-04-24 15:08:13 UTC  

so waht u arent buyin it?

2019-04-24 15:08:20 UTC  

which part though

2019-04-24 15:09:05 UTC  

Uses a fresnel lens placed between the observer and something. No evidence given that the atmosphere behaves like that all.

2019-04-24 15:10:07 UTC  

And that photo evidence Skiba gave doesn't take into account telephoto lens distortion which can alter the apparent sizes of these distant objects

2019-04-24 15:10:14 UTC  

the more layers of atmosphere the more water u are lookin through the more water the more magnification

2019-04-24 15:10:30 UTC  

so how does it look like there is a sunset on a flat earth

2019-04-24 15:10:31 UTC  

idk looked legit to me

2019-04-24 15:10:59 UTC  

No, that is not how magnification works. Looking through more atmosphere doesn't recreate a fresnel lens