Message from @AstralSentient

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2019-04-24 15:06:01 UTC  

which part do u disagree with on that

2019-04-24 15:06:16 UTC  

what do u mean by magnify things

2019-04-24 15:06:32 UTC  

water magnifyiong things is the only part u disagree with ?

2019-04-24 15:06:42 UTC  

i just want to understand

2019-04-24 15:06:54 UTC  

have u ever seen a fire started with water

2019-04-24 15:07:07 UTC  

I would need evidence that the atmosphere magnifies the celestial objects in any way and by how much

2019-04-24 15:07:30 UTC  

also how is that a factor to sunsets

2019-04-24 15:07:38 UTC  

it factors in

2019-04-24 15:07:50 UTC  

Probably that Rob Skiba video

2019-04-24 15:07:57 UTC  

i would show u how it works but u dont think water magnifys things or waters int he atmosphere idk

2019-04-24 15:08:03 UTC  

ok you seen it

2019-04-24 15:08:13 UTC  

so waht u arent buyin it?

2019-04-24 15:08:20 UTC  

which part though

2019-04-24 15:09:05 UTC  

Uses a fresnel lens placed between the observer and something. No evidence given that the atmosphere behaves like that all.

2019-04-24 15:10:07 UTC  

And that photo evidence Skiba gave doesn't take into account telephoto lens distortion which can alter the apparent sizes of these distant objects

2019-04-24 15:10:14 UTC  

the more layers of atmosphere the more water u are lookin through the more water the more magnification

2019-04-24 15:10:30 UTC  

so how does it look like there is a sunset on a flat earth

2019-04-24 15:10:31 UTC  

idk looked legit to me

2019-04-24 15:10:59 UTC  

No, that is not how magnification works. Looking through more atmosphere doesn't recreate a fresnel lens

2019-04-24 15:12:02 UTC  

@Alexandre Supposedly, light bends because the atmosphere is like a lens, and so it appears to set, like this,

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/570628023636721683/Sunset.gif

2019-04-24 15:12:26 UTC  

Rising in this scenario

2019-04-24 15:12:48 UTC  

that only works in water

2019-04-24 15:13:17 UTC  

we are in air their is a lot of water in air

2019-04-24 15:13:22 UTC  

when u are lookin long distances

2019-04-24 15:13:26 UTC  

Yeah, they think that the atmosphere distorts just like a solid lens without any justification

2019-04-24 15:13:51 UTC  

water is piled up in clouds

2019-04-24 15:13:57 UTC  

or they go down

2019-04-24 15:14:04 UTC  

its also in the air right in the room ur in now

2019-04-24 15:14:15 UTC  

but there is not much

2019-04-24 15:14:17 UTC  

when u walk outside ur house that air has water in it

2019-04-24 15:14:31 UTC  

not much in one place think if u looked though 10 miles of it

2019-04-24 15:14:33 UTC  

20 miles

2019-04-24 15:14:37 UTC  

50 miles worth of it

2019-04-24 15:15:02 UTC  

but it doesnt have enough density to distort light

2019-04-24 15:16:56 UTC  

No data, no math, no proof, no anything for this claim.
Therefore it shall automatically be rejected until it can be demonstrated that light can and does behave this way through the atmosphere in the necessary way for the sun to set and rise.
That is my take on it.

2019-04-24 15:17:36 UTC  

i agree

2019-04-24 15:17:55 UTC  

lets talk gravity again

2019-04-24 15:18:28 UTC  

how do we go down when we jump without gravity

2019-04-24 15:19:31 UTC  

their is a bunch of sunset u can watch where the sun appears to shrink in size

2019-04-24 15:20:01 UTC  

im not talkin gravity until someone can show me the experiment where 2 objects of mass are attracted to each other from their mass alone