Message from @jeremy

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2019-05-06 14:26:38 UTC  

but the boats going over the curve is real

2019-05-06 14:26:46 UTC  

why that one thing

2019-05-06 14:26:58 UTC  

thats the only thing thats real out there everything else is an illusion

2019-05-06 14:27:09 UTC  

the cherry picked observations

2019-05-06 14:27:16 UTC  

they cherry picked

2019-05-06 14:27:26 UTC  

I mean you didn't say *everything else* is an illusion, you yourself said *lots of things* are an illusion

2019-05-06 14:28:14 UTC  

It's unclear whether or not boats are passing over the horizon or not.

2019-05-06 14:29:06 UTC  

You have two positions here:
i) Boats are in fact passing over the horizon.
ii) Boats passing over the horizon is an illusion, therefore the illusion needs an explanation, or an alternative solution.

2019-05-06 14:30:59 UTC  

Now, the way we test such things is by constructing both a hypothesis, and a null-hypothesis

2019-05-06 14:31:18 UTC  

What that basically means is that we analyze what we would *expect* to see if one of the positions were true

2019-05-06 14:31:34 UTC  

And the counter-position would then become the null-hypothesis

2019-05-06 14:35:02 UTC  

the explenation is they appear to be going over the horizon but its perspective angular resolution and refraction that appear to be making the boat look like its going over the curve

2019-05-06 14:35:44 UTC  

is their an experiment for why we see chicago from michigan ?

2019-05-06 14:36:22 UTC  

What kind of experiment would you look for?

2019-05-06 14:40:13 UTC  

i would also throw the inverse square law into the perspective refraction and angular resolution as to why the boats appear to be going over a curve

2019-05-06 14:40:57 UTC  

some sort of proof that it would be possible to see chicago from michigan from behind a curve an experiment that proved that

2019-05-06 14:42:04 UTC  

I..I mean. You could get a buddy who lives near the lake and tell them to take a picture at different elevations and see how much of the buildings you can and can't see

2019-05-06 14:42:13 UTC  

Then crunch the numbers and see if they match reality

2019-05-06 14:42:18 UTC  

more experiments should be done before we start assuming things

2019-05-06 14:43:08 UTC  

i dont think their could even be curved water int he first place

2019-05-06 14:43:18 UTC  

im not a flat earther but im not a globe earther either

2019-05-06 14:43:24 UTC  

i want some proof

2019-05-06 14:43:25 UTC  

@jeremy tides prove water isn't flat over large bodied

2019-05-06 14:43:33 UTC  

Uhm

2019-05-06 14:43:41 UTC  

You know water drops are curved, right..?

2019-05-06 14:44:07 UTC  

the ocean is curved and water drops are curved are you saying they are curved for the same reason ?

2019-05-06 14:44:16 UTC  

More or less, yes

2019-05-06 14:44:22 UTC  

Those are different causes

2019-05-06 14:44:33 UTC  

gravity is pulling the water to the center of earth so the water droplet is curved ?

2019-05-06 14:44:47 UTC  

No the drop is surface tension

2019-05-06 14:44:48 UTC  

or is it surface tension

2019-05-06 14:44:53 UTC  

yeah i know

2019-05-06 14:44:56 UTC  

It's falling bc of gravity

2019-05-06 14:44:57 UTC  

not the same thing

2019-05-06 14:45:05 UTC  

And tides are due to tidal gravity

2019-05-06 14:45:12 UTC  

i can show u a water droplet curved that isnt falling though

2019-05-06 14:45:15 UTC  

Cohesive and adhesive forces pulling water molecules together

2019-05-06 14:45:17 UTC  

Hi ive just became a flat earther

2019-05-06 14:45:20 UTC  

surface tension can happen in a glass of water

2019-05-06 14:45:24 UTC  

Yep

2019-05-06 14:45:31 UTC  

But tides is something else