Message from @jeremy

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2019-05-06 21:35:01 UTC  

@97 Eleven Then do extrapolate.

2019-05-06 21:35:53 UTC  

The metric tensor cannot be quantised meaning the einstein-hilbert field equations can't be quantised. And any attempt at peturbative theory coupled with gravity fails and results in a non-renormalizable situation.

2019-05-06 21:36:55 UTC  

I'm sorry, that's applicable to general relativity, not gravity. Because guess what, general relativity is a predictive model for macroscopic systems.

2019-05-06 21:37:25 UTC  

You ask for evidence, what's the point in providing any of the mountains of evidence when your argument against it is "don't trust your senses or anybody of a reputable source, trust me though."

2019-05-06 21:38:12 UTC  

🤔

2019-05-06 21:39:31 UTC  

Your conclusion was derived from what exactly?

2019-05-06 21:40:18 UTC  

Every flat earthers argument against celestial bodies in motion, ever.

2019-05-06 21:40:52 UTC  

Except that this isn't exactly a standard FE argument

2019-05-06 21:52:12 UTC  

It always boils down to the same stuff though

2019-05-06 22:40:38 UTC  

So how does "spacetime curvature" have physical effects between masses? As in something tangible beyond the imaginations of theoretical physicists?
I'd like to know

2019-05-07 00:59:28 UTC  

i jsut dont think its smart to judge the shape of earth by the shape of other celestial bodies or their movements

2019-05-07 01:00:15 UTC  

its all a theory astral

2019-05-07 01:01:58 UTC  

what do u wanna see an experiment of spacetime curvature ? havent u seen the one with the blue sheet and they rolld the balls around on it. what more do u need

2019-05-07 01:02:32 UTC  

i hear u though im not buying that crazy theory either

2019-05-07 01:02:47 UTC  

u cant tell me spacetime curves then roll balls on a sheet and say there it is

2019-05-07 01:07:03 UTC  

we should brainstorm on an experiment to prove or disprove the curve though. doesnt everyone wanna know the truth and end this debate lol

2019-05-07 01:12:12 UTC  

Space-time is a construct, yet it can supposedly warp and have physical effects on masses.
This is quite an extraordinary claim that would need some defined tangible aspect, and not just existing in the imagination of people who work on these theories. Science is what we need, establishing cause and effect relation

2019-05-07 01:12:26 UTC  

i hear u astral

2019-05-07 01:12:39 UTC  

its a bold claim

2019-05-07 01:13:04 UTC  

that is gravity for ya though

2019-05-07 01:15:43 UTC  

when the roll the balls on the sheet thats 2d wouldnt the fabric of space time have to be bending in all directions

2019-05-07 01:15:51 UTC  

Freefall is an observable fact, and it follows an observable relationship, like acceleration, terminal velocity, buoyancy, etc. No theory need for it.
But if you are to propose a hypothesis like this, it needs to be quantified, tangible, and able to be manipulated, so it can be tested and also be falsifiable

2019-05-07 01:16:03 UTC  

dude

2019-05-07 01:16:15 UTC  

why do u sound like a flat earther today

2019-05-07 01:16:31 UTC  

Lol

2019-05-07 01:16:33 UTC  

yesterday i debated u for 3 hours on if the water at the ocean appears to be above ur feet lol

2019-05-07 01:17:00 UTC  

Of course it appears that way. Everyone will admit that

2019-05-07 01:17:07 UTC  

no astral doesnt

2019-05-07 01:17:16 UTC  

But it's actually level

2019-05-07 01:17:25 UTC  

i literally debated him on that one thing for hours last night

2019-05-07 01:17:27 UTC  

What does "sound like a flat earther" mean? I didn't know they sounded a certain way

2019-05-07 01:17:45 UTC  

ur going against the mainstream wanting evidence and proof

2019-05-07 01:17:51 UTC  

sound like a flat earther lol

2019-05-07 01:17:57 UTC  

my bad wasnt tryin to insult u

2019-05-07 01:18:19 UTC  

That is by no means exclusive to "flat earth", so I'm not sure what you mean there

2019-05-07 01:18:48 UTC  

well do u think the curvature of space time is real if the earth is flat

2019-05-07 01:20:10 UTC  

I am not convinced "curvature of spacetime" can exist beyond imagination, since spacetime is merely a construct as far as we are concerned

2019-05-07 01:20:24 UTC  

i agree with you

2019-05-07 01:20:35 UTC  

no need for us to debate tonight thank god

2019-05-07 01:20:40 UTC  

lol