Message from @I-VaPE-ChEMtrAiLS

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2018-09-10 10:22:16 UTC  

Why should you be given scores on what you post

2018-09-10 10:22:22 UTC  

That's just dickish

2018-09-10 10:22:50 UTC  

I feel like this is going to be same conversation from last night haha

2018-09-10 10:22:55 UTC  

We all see how YouTube censorship is going :^)

2018-09-10 10:23:11 UTC  

It’s a show that explores the really bad things you get from fancy technology, there’s an episode called “nose dive” that’s exactly what you described

2018-09-10 10:23:22 UTC  

It's a really good show

2018-09-10 10:23:28 UTC  

On Netflix

2018-09-10 10:23:29 UTC  

Their algorithms so fucked up you get your video taken out if you mention something controversial

2018-09-10 10:23:58 UTC  

Meh I couldn’t get into it

2018-09-10 10:24:32 UTC  

I agree we can't leave it to alogrithims however if we leave it to people they I'd a high rate of burnout as they manually have to see terrible stuff that gets uploaded it's a lose lose @Satan

2018-09-10 10:25:20 UTC  

Machines are about as impartial as you get, I can’t think of a better way tbh

2018-09-10 10:25:21 UTC  

Well there has to be something done if you want to make it a safe space

2018-09-10 10:25:36 UTC  

If not then don't censor

2018-09-10 10:25:49 UTC  

Except explicit shit like child porn or snuff

2018-09-10 10:26:09 UTC  

@xXPuppyLoverXx I don't think they are impartial, they can be trained and baised

2018-09-10 10:26:29 UTC  

@xXPuppyLoverXx Machines are as impartial as the people that design them.

2018-09-10 10:26:40 UTC  

I agree with puppy but I mean it's faulty

2018-09-10 10:26:47 UTC  

Well yeah it gets a tad more complex once you bring machine learning into the picture

2018-09-10 10:26:52 UTC  

@Satan yeah but who goes through the terrible stuff a human who will need therapy or a robot that wont

2018-09-10 10:26:56 UTC  

So does everything though

2018-09-10 10:27:24 UTC  

I mean Google doesn't know how their YouTube algorithm works anymore machine learning made it too complex

2018-09-10 10:27:41 UTC  

@The Gwench they aren’t explicitly designed to favour one thing over another, they tend towards what the user watches

2018-09-10 10:27:46 UTC  

That's why I said don't censor
It's easier to filter out extremely bad stuff like CP or gore but becomes faulty if you want to detect fake news articles @I-VaPE-ChEMtrAiLS

2018-09-10 10:28:14 UTC  

If you constantly watch right wing political videos it will recommend more, that’s not bias that’s just it learning what you like to watch and giving you more

2018-09-10 10:28:28 UTC  

Like YouTube, it's easier to filter out decapitation and child porn but when they implemented the not having controversial title shit it went downhill

2018-09-10 10:28:43 UTC  

That's why you target the pages that share fake news and the websites that make fake news

2018-09-10 10:29:25 UTC  

That might affect shit like onion which relies on sarcasm

2018-09-10 10:29:45 UTC  

Satire should be protected

2018-09-10 10:29:51 UTC  

Exactly

2018-09-10 10:29:59 UTC  

Programming a computer to understand satire and sarcasm is basically the holy grail of CS though

2018-09-10 10:30:10 UTC  

😂

2018-09-10 10:30:29 UTC  

@xXPuppyLoverXx How do you know that for sure? I mean...remember the computer chips that were installed in cars to make it seem like the carbon emissions were lower that they actually were? I forget the name of the car manufacturer.

2018-09-10 10:30:32 UTC  

Which is why FB added the satire tag years ago

2018-09-10 10:30:40 UTC  

That’s not how it works

2018-09-10 10:31:03 UTC  

Skewing numbers and making a machine learning system favour one political side over another is a very different thing entirely

2018-09-10 10:31:15 UTC  

^

2018-09-10 10:31:31 UTC  

The diesel emissions thing worked by detecting when a test was underway and increasing the amount of DEF fed into the engine

2018-09-10 10:31:53 UTC  

So you get less emissions at the cost of briefly increased usage of adblue

2018-09-10 10:31:57 UTC  

But @xXPuppyLoverXx
It's been fucking up YouTube
Sarcastic content made for comedy gets taken out thinking it's actually controversial

2018-09-10 10:32:17 UTC  

Well yeah, that’s kinda where AI breaks down at the moment

2018-09-10 10:32:53 UTC  

While things like daddy o five goes out undetected but channels that make comedy are hit because their taste in comedy was too controversial