Message from @Goldsteel

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2018-09-14 05:33:30 UTC  

That's why you use the super secret (read: every undergrad does this) method of reading papers.

2018-09-14 05:33:39 UTC  

Step 1: Check the title, is it relevant?

2018-09-14 05:33:58 UTC  

Step 2: Read the abstract, is it what you're looking for in regard to the experimental outcomes?

2018-09-14 05:34:20 UTC  

Step 3: Check the authors, are they on vixra or do they shovel papers out at a rate of knots? If they do, throw it.

2018-09-14 05:34:50 UTC  

Bruh good undergrads just search for a fact they already kinda know and put it in the finished paper at the last moment

2018-09-14 05:35:03 UTC  

Step 4: Start examining the body. You won't really understand why they did anything but you should be able to examine if they make any blatant errors or make random claims without citation.

2018-09-14 05:35:19 UTC  

Step 5: Check the conclusion matches the abstract.

2018-09-14 05:35:53 UTC  

Step 6: If they present data sets, check they look reasonable. Are the units consistent? Is the scale reasonable? Is the sample size reasonable? Did anyone else use this instrument and what did they get?

2018-09-14 05:35:59 UTC  

That's pretty much all you need.

2018-09-14 05:36:57 UTC  

That's a lot of effort

2018-09-14 05:37:03 UTC  

😏

2018-09-14 05:37:14 UTC  

You get a feel for it

2018-09-14 05:37:48 UTC  

I did not do any of that in my undergrad, but then again I was a solid C student until my third year

2018-09-14 05:38:10 UTC  

I will be surprised if you don't check things during your MSc

2018-09-14 05:38:24 UTC  

And also with Zoo its way easier to assume things, it's all very logical

2018-09-14 05:39:55 UTC  

But this year I've been careful about checking things arts papers are not quite as easy to bullshit sources for

2018-09-14 05:40:22 UTC  

You can check bullshit sources if you have journal subscriptions paid for you

2018-09-14 05:40:29 UTC  

Which a lot of academics do

2018-09-14 05:40:40 UTC  

We all know if you used wikipedias citations

2018-09-14 05:40:45 UTC  

It's fine for uni

2018-09-14 05:40:47 UTC  

But

2018-09-14 05:40:49 UTC  

*We know*

2018-09-14 05:41:11 UTC  

I use Google scholar don't worry

2018-09-14 05:41:36 UTC  

The worst I do is cite books on Google books that I can't actually read the whole thing of

2018-09-14 05:42:53 UTC  

Brainlet tier: Wikipedia citations
Brain tier: Google scholar for online free papers and abstracts
Super brain tier: Citing books online
Cosmic brain tier: Citing books from the library not online that nobody will bother to check

2018-09-14 05:44:01 UTC  

What tier is copying the citations of the first paper you found?

2018-09-14 05:44:34 UTC  

Brain tier

2018-09-14 05:44:50 UTC  

Ultra MEGA COSMIC supreme tier:

2018-09-14 05:45:02 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/490035225624313858/DJYhcs4V4AAiuJH.png

2018-09-14 05:45:12 UTC  

Haha

2018-09-14 05:47:40 UTC  

ULTIMATE GOD TIER:
Citing *yourself* in another paper which sites the current paper

2018-09-14 05:47:41 UTC  

😏

2018-09-14 05:49:07 UTC  

I've seen people cite themselves, I've never seen anyone do it without being smug

2018-09-14 05:49:31 UTC  

There's a guy on vixra who does mathematics and only cites himself *several* times every single paper

2018-09-14 05:49:54 UTC  

One time he literally remarks that his theorem is true because nobody proved it wrong and he'll fight anyone who tries

2018-09-14 05:50:09 UTC  

The absolute madman

2018-09-14 05:50:55 UTC  

It even has a fucking spelling mistake

2018-09-14 05:51:00 UTC  

This is just advanced shitposting

2018-09-14 05:52:37 UTC  

I mean I believe

2018-09-14 05:52:47 UTC  

We should remove the 7