Message from @I-VaPE-ChEMtrAiLS

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2018-09-25 10:38:13 UTC  

it is also the only surviving TRUE diapsid

2018-09-25 10:38:19 UTC  

Yeah I know Henry the Tuatara

2018-09-25 10:38:24 UTC  

ye

2018-09-25 10:38:54 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/494095448827756544/download.jpg

2018-09-25 10:38:55 UTC  

I've got a zoology degree from NZ so I know my native species quite well

2018-09-25 10:38:58 UTC  

tuatara scull

2018-09-25 10:39:03 UTC  

clearly a diapsid

2018-09-25 10:39:22 UTC  

(diapsid means it has 2 temporal holes on each side)

2018-09-25 10:39:32 UTC  

Yes

2018-09-25 10:39:35 UTC  

I know

2018-09-25 10:39:48 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/494095674304888842/hqdefault.jpg

2018-09-25 10:39:52 UTC  

komoto dragon

2018-09-25 10:40:05 UTC  

it lost the bottom bridge of the bottom apsid

2018-09-25 10:40:41 UTC  

Yeah I know, this change was also present in transition species from lizard to mammals

2018-09-25 10:40:50 UTC  

true

2018-09-25 10:41:01 UTC  

As well as a change in gait

2018-09-25 10:41:08 UTC  

And tooth changes

2018-09-25 10:41:20 UTC  

turtles are strictly anapsids but they evolved from diapsids

2018-09-25 10:41:27 UTC  

the 2 apsids closed

2018-09-25 10:41:45 UTC  

in the fossil records of turtles we see signs of one of the apsids

2018-09-25 10:42:11 UTC  

But you can't use a single retained feature to classify the species as being one thing or the other

2018-09-25 10:42:24 UTC  

You can use them to trace origins

2018-09-25 10:42:26 UTC  

wich is the point i made

2018-09-25 10:42:51 UTC  

turtles arent strictly diapsids but are still clasified as one in phylogenic clasification

2018-09-25 10:43:07 UTC  

You said birds are reptiles, that's not true. Birds are birds, birds evolved from dinos, but they are birds.

2018-09-25 10:43:18 UTC  

yes

2018-09-25 10:43:26 UTC  

they are also reptiles

2018-09-25 10:43:43 UTC  

They are reptiles in the same way we are

2018-09-25 10:43:50 UTC  

false

2018-09-25 10:44:00 UTC  

not in phylogenic clasifification

2018-09-25 10:44:43 UTC  

it was a few more branches earlier where you get mamals and a goup that has reptiles

2018-09-25 10:45:38 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/494097141678080000/Screenshot_77.png

2018-09-25 10:46:44 UTC  

Read the whole thing

2018-09-25 10:47:10 UTC  

"while the Linnaean system is more useful for understanding how animals live."

2018-09-25 10:47:18 UTC  

im guessing your going to point to that

2018-09-25 10:47:26 UTC  

yes i agree

2018-09-25 10:47:34 UTC  

in ways

2018-09-25 10:47:42 UTC  

but that was never my point

2018-09-25 10:47:49 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/494097691748335636/Screenshot_20180925-224728.png

2018-09-25 10:47:50 UTC  

it literaly says what i was saying