Message from @Σ5

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2018-09-25 10:34:33 UTC  

ye

2018-09-25 10:34:41 UTC  

teh feather is quite complex

2018-09-25 10:34:49 UTC  

it can only really evolve once

2018-09-25 10:35:01 UTC  

That's not quite true

2018-09-25 10:35:27 UTC  

Eyes in their complexity have evolved several different ways

2018-09-25 10:35:32 UTC  

other dinosaurs had things what weren't really feathers but more like spikes of protofeathers (basicly what baby chicks have)

2018-09-25 10:35:51 UTC  

feathers in there structure

2018-09-25 10:36:17 UTC  

eyes can evolve difrent ways but they are essentially difrent

2018-09-25 10:36:24 UTC  

in the topology and structure

2018-09-25 10:36:32 UTC  

feathers are more unlikely

2018-09-25 10:36:57 UTC  

what i mean is the exact structure

2018-09-25 10:37:16 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/494095034065616908/220px-Henry_at_Invercargill.jpg

2018-09-25 10:37:19 UTC  

this is not a lizard

2018-09-25 10:37:39 UTC  

its the only remaining line of a sister group of lizards

2018-09-25 10:37:55 UTC  

its also a single genus

2018-09-25 10:38:13 UTC  

it is also the only surviving TRUE diapsid

2018-09-25 10:38:19 UTC  

Yeah I know Henry the Tuatara

2018-09-25 10:38:24 UTC  

ye

2018-09-25 10:38:54 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/494095448827756544/download.jpg

2018-09-25 10:38:55 UTC  

I've got a zoology degree from NZ so I know my native species quite well

2018-09-25 10:38:58 UTC  

tuatara scull

2018-09-25 10:39:03 UTC  

clearly a diapsid

2018-09-25 10:39:22 UTC  

(diapsid means it has 2 temporal holes on each side)

2018-09-25 10:39:32 UTC  

Yes

2018-09-25 10:39:35 UTC  

I know

2018-09-25 10:39:48 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/494095674304888842/hqdefault.jpg

2018-09-25 10:39:52 UTC  

komoto dragon

2018-09-25 10:40:05 UTC  

it lost the bottom bridge of the bottom apsid

2018-09-25 10:40:41 UTC  

Yeah I know, this change was also present in transition species from lizard to mammals

2018-09-25 10:40:50 UTC  

true

2018-09-25 10:41:01 UTC  

As well as a change in gait

2018-09-25 10:41:08 UTC  

And tooth changes

2018-09-25 10:41:20 UTC  

turtles are strictly anapsids but they evolved from diapsids

2018-09-25 10:41:27 UTC  

the 2 apsids closed

2018-09-25 10:41:45 UTC  

in the fossil records of turtles we see signs of one of the apsids

2018-09-25 10:42:11 UTC  

But you can't use a single retained feature to classify the species as being one thing or the other

2018-09-25 10:42:24 UTC  

You can use them to trace origins

2018-09-25 10:42:26 UTC  

wich is the point i made

2018-09-25 10:42:51 UTC  

turtles arent strictly diapsids but are still clasified as one in phylogenic clasification

2018-09-25 10:43:07 UTC  

You said birds are reptiles, that's not true. Birds are birds, birds evolved from dinos, but they are birds.

2018-09-25 10:43:18 UTC  

yes