so how did they get to flying?

in linaean clasification idk

they use the feathers to insulate themselves and the eggs

the longer feathers where used for the eggs

my school taught me that aves is a separate class only, just like reptiles and mammals lol

eventually they where able to use the feathers to propell themselves

ah

in lineaen clasification aves is seperate

@Moist Mayonnaise to put it into a term you'd understand it's like arguing about aether being consistent with special realtivity. Small details that don't really matter but easy to be mistaken about

they used the feathers to propell themselves in aiding climbing trees

then eventually that led to gliding and then flying

That's only one theory, the other one is that they chased flying bugs and that's how I they began flying

well thast one way

so because they've descended from dinosaurs, they should be classified as reptiles?

gliding from trees or just rnning on land

@dumblebore 🌈 yes, but mammals are also descended from reptiles

because they evolved from reptiles they are by deffinition reptiles in phylogenic clasification

So you need to make a distinction and not use only one classification

https://askabiologist.asu.edu/questions/birds-dinosaurs-reptiles

what we call the first reptile is kinda arbitrary tho

This says it better than I could

but then didn't life begin from the sea?

Yeah it did

so then aren't we all descended from pisces or aquatic animals then?

tyhere where reptilian animals arround way before the reptile group first apeared

yes

It's almost as if species are completely arbitrary

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the only solution is to either clasify mamals and reptiles as fish

or that fish has no meaning

in phylogenic clasification

if fish has a meaning then its basicly synnonymous with chordata

or at least a shortly decended group from that

What are you on about

he said "so then aren't we all descended from pisces or aquatic animals then?"

i responded with a guess with where he was going

You should look up competing species concepts

You'd like that kind of stuff

so like symbiotic relationshit but competitionwize

fish is a _part_ of chordata though, isn't it

idk