there are difrent deffinitions of species

the main one i usualy use is that 2 creatures are the same species if they are geneticly compatable without substantial isues

with a half half mix

So lions and tigers are the same species in that one

Hybridisation is a factor

All of them have issues

All of them are arbitrary

thast why i acknowledge there are ptroblems

its hard to define

i love how you guys are talking so scientific on this FE server

its kinda arbitrary

Broke: species concepts have problems
Woke: species as an idea are problematic

also there is the problem of ring species

yes i agree its probably a nonsensical idea also

its like trying to partition land area

there are times where i use systems that break intuition

i may actually say that lions and tigers are the same species

but that really bothers my intuition

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That would be incorrect

acording to what deffinition

by my deffinition its not incorrect

its a semantical thing

it usualy gets down to what both sides mean

il only use that system when is only convienient

What most people use now is DNA

so its dna difrence?

Which is how we find new species that look exactly like each other

it debends on the deffinition of species

acording to a difrent deffinition they may be definitionaly the same

what is the dna deffinition of species?\

That's the preferred way now, but I feel we might be getting symantic again. If I wanted that I'd argue the shape of the earth

Well we look for different genetic markers

it only gets semantical when you say no its wrong even tho i say it is in fact a semantical difrence

Which might happen soon

https://youtu.be/4QclvXCbRJc

oh man

"thru this entire debate we haven't heard a single argument that atheism is true"

atheism is not a thing to be true

its not a claim