Message from @Abe Clark

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2020-05-06 18:31:27 UTC  

This is the part that always kills me. We have casualties on our side but even the the instance of defending oneself its somehow considered wrong for returning the favor

2020-05-06 18:33:11 UTC  

That’s due to public image. Since birth people are taught that cops are the good guys that can do no wrong. We have to change that image by pointing out their fallacies and using their own system against them

2020-05-06 18:35:29 UTC  

Imo you're playing mlk theories in a group that more identifies with Malcom.

2020-05-06 18:39:58 UTC  

So let me get this straight. You want to help keep a business open, and than when cops come to shut it down you want to stand your ground

2020-05-06 18:40:00 UTC  

Correct?

2020-05-06 18:40:37 UTC  
2020-05-06 18:41:22 UTC  

Allegedly

2020-05-06 18:41:37 UTC  

What do you mean by allegedly

2020-05-06 18:41:54 UTC  

Because we are not here to instigate violence.

2020-05-06 18:42:42 UTC  

You understand?

2020-05-06 18:43:03 UTC  

Neither am I. Defense is not instigating. Standing your ground is legal in Florida. I am a law abiding citizen.

2020-05-06 18:44:31 UTC  

Stand your ground absolutely is legal in Florida, but you’re insinuating as something that is pretty damn illegal, which is not what we need right now.

2020-05-06 18:45:04 UTC  

If you want to go help open a business I have no qualms with that, just don’t be stupid. Odessa did it right, violence is not the answer, yet.

2020-05-06 18:45:10 UTC  

I'm not insinuating anything illegal

2020-05-06 18:45:21 UTC  

Dude

2020-05-06 18:45:25 UTC  

Come on

2020-05-06 18:45:50 UTC  

> “Without the holding hands up part”. So what’s your plan?

Stand your ground.
>
> The law.

2020-05-06 18:46:08 UTC  

The law. Yes. Defense yes. Not illegal

2020-05-06 18:46:11 UTC  

That’s insinuating something pretty bad right there, don’t you think?

2020-05-06 18:46:16 UTC  

Stand your ground against who?

2020-05-06 18:46:35 UTC  

And what exactly will that consist of?

2020-05-06 18:47:41 UTC  

Stand your ground laws is a reach my man

2020-05-06 18:48:55 UTC  

Stand your ground is in terms where you fear great bodily harm or death from someone enacting against you or your home

2020-05-06 18:49:45 UTC  

Cops enforcing a bullshit city ordinance does not qualify use of deadly force against them

2020-05-06 18:50:05 UTC  

Thank you Web.

2020-05-06 18:58:09 UTC  

Hmm ok. Let's chalk it up as a misunderstanding then and to ease your minds I would in no way harm someone who isn't attempting to harm me.

2020-05-06 19:02:20 UTC  

Also are the pamphlets you're referring too the ones that say this is a civil war? I don't agree with that message. Civil War is citizens fighting against fellow citizens. That doesn't fit.

2020-05-06 19:03:14 UTC  

Simply a template. Change how you see fit

2020-05-06 19:09:01 UTC  

And yet that still blatantly sounds bad

2020-05-06 19:10:08 UTC  

Okay listen man. Just don’t blatantly say shit like that. It sounds horrible, and if that is outed it’ll sound even fucking worse.

2020-05-06 19:20:35 UTC  

You seem upset and I don't understand why. So let's agree to drop it. If it's passing out pamphlets and having a civil discourse with people. I can definitely do that. My bad if I came in hot.

2020-05-06 19:22:13 UTC  

There have been a lot of people recently advocating for unprecedented violence recently and I have a splitting fucking migraine.

I just wanted to ensure you were trying to bring people together to start violence, because that’s not what this server is meant for

2020-05-06 19:22:33 UTC  

Also if I curse I’m usually not mad, it’s just apart of my vocabulary at this point 😂

2020-05-06 19:23:09 UTC  

@[FL] ColdDay we’re all a bit radical it’s ok but we’re getting too much attention. We need to work on getting the public support and building our numbers.

2020-05-06 19:25:42 UTC  

Sounds good.

2020-05-06 19:31:00 UTC  

@[MS]WebMDemt just throwing out ideas. Maybe go on reddit and do a AMA about the group. 🤷‍♂️

2020-05-06 19:31:17 UTC  

Have we thought about writing up a pr statement other than the pamphlet thats going around, to hand out to businesses?

2020-05-06 19:38:13 UTC  

Actually no. Do you want to elaborate?

2020-05-06 19:38:19 UTC  

I do think it’s a good idea

2020-05-06 19:39:41 UTC  

Like a script to go by so when we go to our local councils were all on the same page, and a pamphlet that explains were not going to blaze of glory the bar, unless all other measures have been exhausted.

2020-05-06 19:40:40 UTC  

Because if we all go to our local councils off hinged not on the same page our movement will suffer due to not being coordinated.