This is the part that always kills me. We have casualties on our side but even the the instance of defending oneself its somehow considered wrong for returning the favor

That’s due to public image. Since birth people are taught that cops are the good guys that can do no wrong. We have to change that image by pointing out their fallacies and using their own system against them

Imo you're playing mlk theories in a group that more identifies with Malcom.

So let me get this straight. You want to help keep a business open, and than when cops come to shut it down you want to stand your ground

Correct?

@[FL] ColdDay

Allegedly

What do you mean by allegedly

Because we are not here to instigate violence.

You understand?

Neither am I. Defense is not instigating. Standing your ground is legal in Florida. I am a law abiding citizen.

Stand your ground absolutely is legal in Florida, but you’re insinuating as something that is pretty damn illegal, which is not what we need right now.

If you want to go help open a business I have no qualms with that, just don’t be stupid. Odessa did it right, violence is not the answer, yet.

I'm not insinuating anything illegal

Dude

Come on

> “Without the holding hands up part”. So what’s your plan?

Stand your ground.
>
> The law.

The law. Yes. Defense yes. Not illegal

That’s insinuating something pretty bad right there, don’t you think?

Stand your ground against who?

And what exactly will that consist of?

Stand your ground laws is a reach my man

Stand your ground is in terms where you fear great bodily harm or death from someone enacting against you or your home

Cops enforcing a bullshit city ordinance does not qualify use of deadly force against them

Thank you Web.

Hmm ok. Let's chalk it up as a misunderstanding then and to ease your minds I would in no way harm someone who isn't attempting to harm me.

Also are the pamphlets you're referring too the ones that say this is a civil war? I don't agree with that message. Civil War is citizens fighting against fellow citizens. That doesn't fit.

Simply a template. Change how you see fit

And yet that still blatantly sounds bad

Okay listen man. Just don’t blatantly say shit like that. It sounds horrible, and if that is outed it’ll sound even fucking worse.

You seem upset and I don't understand why. So let's agree to drop it. If it's passing out pamphlets and having a civil discourse with people. I can definitely do that. My bad if I came in hot.

There have been a lot of people recently advocating for unprecedented violence recently and I have a splitting fucking migraine.

I just wanted to ensure you were trying to bring people together to start violence, because that’s not what this server is meant for

Also if I curse I’m usually not mad, it’s just apart of my vocabulary at this point 😂

@[FL] ColdDay we’re all a bit radical it’s ok but we’re getting too much attention. We need to work on getting the public support and building our numbers.

Sounds good.

@[MS]WebMDemt just throwing out ideas. Maybe go on reddit and do a AMA about the group. 🤷‍♂️

Have we thought about writing up a pr statement other than the pamphlet thats going around, to hand out to businesses?

Actually no. Do you want to elaborate?

I do think it’s a good idea

Like a script to go by so when we go to our local councils were all on the same page, and a pamphlet that explains were not going to blaze of glory the bar, unless all other measures have been exhausted.

Because if we all go to our local councils off hinged not on the same page our movement will suffer due to not being coordinated.